Fallout

Xevy said:

They're purposefully making out all the factions as flawed.

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The scenes have fundamentally different framing. Watch vault tec and other corps sitting around talking about the need for nuclear war v her monologue about how she embraced Lucy's mom.

If this is their attempt to misdirect and eventually go "see she was bad too!" its pretty dumb. Anyone with half a brain sees shes evil.

Everyone seems to forget that if this takes place shortly after FNV (seems very likely) and they are going with the fall of NCR ending from FNV, the NCR had a restored working power grid in the area around Shady Sands (shown in the end credits of FO2 and mentioned in FNV). So the more likely scenario was they just plugged their fusion reactor into the existing grid (or what was left of it after Hank nuked both NCR and BoS armies in Shady Sands prior to the series start) likely just as a proof of concept or rally cry to get the NCR back together. Seems pretty clear to me that Commie woman was central to NCR and that the raiders were likely survivors of the collapse of the NCR.

But this would be completely lost on anyone who had never played the games. I am hoping they are running with the House Always Wins ending of FNV, because it would make the most sense and have the most interesting story options. NCR suffers economic collapse after getting buttfucked by New Vegas securitrons, Legion is in full retreat (possible internal power struggles if Caeser is dead at this point), Burning Man is in play, and BoS is a total shitshow because they had sent so much of their central leadership to the Commonwealth after the NCR beat them down. Lots of potential ways they could go in that scenario.

Never played a Fallout game, but really enjoyed the show. Maybe that is out of ignorance from how they changed the source material, but again I really enjoyed it. Also, Ella Purnell is very easy on the eyes.

Oblio said:

Never played a Fallout game, but really enjoyed the show. Maybe that is out of ignorance from how they changed the source material, but again I really enjoyed it. Also, Ella Purnell is very easy on the eyes.

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The "they changed the lore" edge lords are all retarded. I am a bonofied expert on the fallout lore (and was even friends with one of the leads on FNV) so believe me when I say I was scrutinizing shit for them changing the core lore. Everything they did in the show does not conflict with the core lore. The BotS airship coming back after NCR collapses was hinted at in FO4. Northern LA having a working power grid was in the ending of FO2 and mentioned in FNV. Pre War ghouls lasing longer before going feral was hinted at in several games. Vault Tec being potentially responsible for starting the war (remember they were heavily in bed with the Enclave) is definitely something that was teased in the games.

That said, there are two things they added to the lore I could see people bitch about breaking cannon, when really it was just something added to the world by the show writers that either had not been mentioned or considered before. First is the idea that Ghouls could stave off going feral by taking certain drugs, which really all the sapient ghouls in the games except Harrold were mega chem addicts so its not exactly a big stretch. Second (and much more picky) is the idea that Gulpers existed out west (they had previously only been seen in the Far Harbor area on an island in the NE in FO4). Third, the whole cold fusion from commie woman being a thing which honestly is minor in the scheme of things when you look at other mad scientist shit in the universe to say nothing of Big MT. Finally the idea of VT having nukes to nuke Shady Sands with, which is easily plausable since the bomb in the middle of Megaton had a fucking Vault Tech logo on it in FO3 and (next to Enclave) the remnants of Vault Tec have the most resources of anyone still operating from pre-War times.

But as I said, if you are not into the video games and only watched the show or (in the edge lord's cases) you only have superficial knowledge of the in game universe (especially if all you played were the FPS entries) you are very unlikely to know these things. And the show did not have the time to explain them to the viewers without that pre-existing knowledge for the most part. I am mostly ok with that as I am sick to death of origin stories, but it did hurt their story telling for the finale mostly because NCR Commie Immortal Science Lady had little to know explanation of context in the show.

BoozeCube said:

I enjoyed it just as a campy story in the fallout universe. Those of you trying to dig deep in this shallow as plot hole riddle shitfest of a story aren't doing yourselves any favors, you are just going to make yourself hate it. This is fast and furious level popcorn flick entertainment with a heaping side dish of woke bullshit, that's all it will ever aspire to be. Honestly if anything it just makes me want to see Fallout 5 release but hopefully not as dumbed down as Fallout 4 was. The fallout series itself always had morally ambiguous retards doing morally ambiguous things the rest were just flat out vile and evil shit.

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Sorry on that front, but too much fake and gay especially with Microsoft in the room now with this shit. Their hatred of Obsidian for making the best entry in the post FPS franchise is irrational and costing them fans, but they are intent on destroying their own IP rather than admitting they fucked up and got shown up by the original creators. FO5 will end up making 76 look like BG3.