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Shonuff

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Fucking retarded. You're going to write him as misunderstood in his desire to fix humanity forever and then make him literally Stalin.

Yeah, no.
Yes, because characters in comics are never written differently by different writers, right?

New to comics? Continuity is always an issue. I'm not sure when that quote was done, but Doom was more evil in the 80's, in the current era, not so much.

Also, if Doom is god (which he currently is in Secret Wars), he's not evil or good, he is god.
 

j00t

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Again, let's take a character like Sherlock Holmes and consider that regardless of how many times the characterization is adapted and written by someone other that sir Arthur Conan Doyle, if there is a poor adaptation of him, we don't blame the character, we blame the writer. But with comic book characters, each and every iteration of a character is judged AS the whole, not as a percentage of it
 

Jx3

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Im not going to see it, I might red box it when it comes out. I hope it tanks and marvel gets the rights. I want to see Dr. Doom done right.
 

The Ancient_sl

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No surprise Bat-God loving lyrical is a big Doom fan since his plot armor is usually as ridiculous. Somehow steals the power of an omniscient being because he caught him off guard (?), seemingly able to go toe-to-toe with heroes far beyond his power level because despite the fact he isn't Tony Stark, his armor is just as good, and guess what?! If you ever manage to defeat Doom you were fighting a Doombot all along!
 

Shonuff

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No surprise Bat-God loving lyrical is a big Doom fan since his plot armor is usually as ridiculous. Somehow steals the power of an omniscient being because he caught him off guard (?), seemingly able to go toe-to-toe with heroes far beyond his power level because despite the fact he isn't Tony Stark, his armor is just as good, and guess what?! If you ever manage to defeat Doom you were fighting a Doombot all along!
The Beyonder is not omniscient, he's omnipotent. There's a difference, you asshat.

Doom goes above his power level? Leaving the fact that he's the smartest person on Earth in the Marvel universe, his sorcery rivals Doctor Strange.

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Shonuff

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You guys are no match for Batdoom's super preparedness power.
This is a little bit different. Batman has tech, but never wears it. Doom sleeps in his armor, which can withstand blows from Hulk and Thor. In Triumph and Torment, he comes in a close second to Dr Strange to see who the most powerful sorceror on the planet is.

He's retardedly OP, so they have to come up with really stupid ways to defeat him. Like in that one video, he's fighting all of The Avengers, and they had to have him sit down and say he was bored. Because they've built him up so much, it cheapens him when he loses.
 

Shonuff

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What does that word say?
Look it up. The Beyonder is not nearly as powerful as he thinks he is. It's been said before, he's a portion of the cosmic cube, along with Owen Reese (Molecule Man). Anytime he owned cosmic entities, was them easing his ascension of a higher level of cosmic awareness. As a cosmic cube, he can only affect reality on a planetary level, and nowhere near what he thought he could attain. Him fighting cosmic entities is akin to a four year old son trying to beat up his dad, and the dad going along with it.

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Shonuff

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I don't need to discuss another dumb retcon that wasn't present at the time Doom got the drop on him.
Obviously, the Beyonder is not omniscient, because everyone keeps getting the drop on him. And the whole point of Secret Wars and him forming Battleworld was so that he could learn about sentient beings, free will and why they do what they do. If he was omniscient, there would have been no Secret Wars. Namely because he wouldn't need to study us.
 

Shonuff

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So you agree.
No, I don't agree that Dr. Doom's only power is super preparedness.

Doctor Doom is a polymath and scientific genius. Throughout most of his publication history, he has been depicted as one of the most intelligent humans in the Marvel Universe. This is shown on many occasions, most famously by actually curing Ben Grimm of his Thing form, which Reed Richards has never repeated.[81] On the other hand, Reed Richards managed to process all the computer calculations necessary to save the life of a disintegrating Kitty Pryde by himself, which is a feat that Doctor Doom at the time professed to be unable to do.[82]

Doctor Doom also possesses originally minor mystical capabilities due to teachings from Tibetan monks, but later increased them to a considerable extent due to tutoring from his lover Morgan Le Fay. He is capable of energy projection, creating protective shields, and summoning hordes of demonic creatures.[83] Even at a time his abilities were consistently referred to as minor, with assistance from his technology and by tag-teaming with Doctor Strange, Doctor Doom managed to come second in a magic tournament held by the ancient sorcerer the Aged Genghis.[84]

Doctor Doom has also used his scientific talents to steal or replicate the power of other beings such as the Silver Surfer, or in one case the entity Galactus' world-ship.[85]
The alien Ovoids taught Doctor Doom the process of psionically transferring his consciousness into another nearby being through a simple eye contact, as well as showing him other forms of technology[86][87] which Doctor Doom uses to escape from incarcerations and to avoid getting killed;[88][89] however, if his concentration is broken, it can transfer his mind back, and he rarely uses this power unless absolutely necessary due to his own ego about his appearance.

Doctor Doom can exert technopathic control over certain machines, most notably the Doom bots. In addition, Doctor Doom has a remarkably strong will, as demonstrated in the graphic novel, Emperor Doom when he dared his prisoner, the mind controlling Purple Man, to attempt to control him and he successfully resists.

Without his armor he proved himself to be a skilled bare-handed fighter, even capable of killing a lion with a single punch.[90][91]

Doctor Doom's armor augments his natural physical strength to superhuman levels, to the point where he is able to hold his own against Spider-Man in hand-to-hand combat,[92] although he tends to rely on long-range tactics when engaging physically stronger foes. It is also highly resistant to harm, sufficient to withstand blows from Iron Man's armor.[93] The armor can generate a defensive force field[94] and a lethal electric shock killing anyone who might come in contact with Doctor Doom.[94] The armor is self-supporting, equipped with internal stores and recycling systems for air, food, water, and energy, allowing the wearer to survive lengthy periods of exposure underwater or in outer space.
 

Furious

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Obviously, the Beyonder is not omniscient, because everyone keeps getting the drop on him. And the whole point of Secret Wars and him forming Battleworld was so that he could learn about sentient beings, free will and why they do what they do. If he was omniscient, there would have been no Secret Wars. Namely because he wouldn't need to study us.
LOL
 

Lanx

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In childrens crusade, Magneto admitte Doom is the second most powerful person on earth behind the scarlet witch. Is doom a better sorcorer than strange? Maybe, sorceror supreme pretty much has to be a good guy, even tho Doom was considered for the part when dr strange lost the title. Then when you think about it. Stranges successor was dr voodoo, a piece of shit retard who died the next issue, so maybe being sorcorer supreme really doesnt mean you're number 1.

And whats wrong with Doom, using a machine to steal the Beyonders power? Thats how far ahead in tech he is, its no different than Galactus and his world destroyer machine turning it into energy.
 

Nester

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This is pointless, batman could out prepare doom anyway....

Can we get back on track?

Don't go see this movie so we have the chance to see charcers some of us think dont suck in a setting where they in fact....do not suck.
 

Lanx

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Pro/nay Doom convo is more interesting than any media of FF either in comic or horrible movie form.