Fear the Walking Dead

Honestly, I think the impact of slow-moving zombies is being downplayed a bit here. To me, it isn't the actuallywalkingcorpses that are the big problem, its the amplifying effect of complete social collapse. If we were a hive mind, these zombies would be trivial to manage even in an environment where everyone that dies of all causes becomes one. Unfortunately, humanfearwould both increase the creation rate of zombies, but also severely handicap any organized response to them. In addition to the lose of public infrastructure, you would see massive increases in crime and violence which would both thin law enforcement and the military, but also cause those same cops and soldiers to abandon their duties to protect their families at a much higher rate.

AMC clearly greenlit this spinoff with an insufficient budget because of some uncertainty about its success relative to the investment. This show had a much higher potential to be amazing as a joint zombie entertainment show and a social critique as WWZ - the book, not shitty movie were. Fast forwarding those 9 days was asinine. Going from social unrest and fraying to complete collapse was an enormous missed opportunity.

It sucks and is in no way worth your time

That overrunning of the military compound was lame as fuck. No memo went out to the soldiers to shoot them in the fucking head? They could have easily just fortified the fences by aiming their fucking weapons at the head and built a wall of dead zombie bodies. I guess it is consitent though with the lore of this universe. The dumbfucks at the prison couldn't figure out to just keep stabbing them in the head either.

I like how the main characters basically just fucked all the survivors in LA to save 2-3 people.

The end 15minutes was really robbed of any dramatic tension. A big luxury house looking over the ocean, is never going to feel scarey. And the ex-wife and her reveal that she'd be bitten, but it was down by the sea with the waves crashing against the shore and the sea gulls calling, again didn't carry the weight it could have.

When Slate (?) lead them to the house, I thought it was a con just to get them to drive him where he needed to be. Then they'd be ditched. But no he really did own the place and was doing the right thing.

Yea I was meh on the last episode. I would say the old man unleashing 2000+ zombies caused the downfall of LA but it looks like it was already there anyway. I also like how it magically became daytime while it they were inside looking for Slate(?) and the kid.

Harshaw_sl said:

I like how the main characters basically just fucked all the survivors in LA to save 2-3 people.

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This was my thinking too. I understand the military leadership is doing something that you don't like, but I'm not sure that it justifies leading a previously contained army of flesh-eating zombies down upon the rank and file. There was no other way to access a compound where the occupants were clearly preoccupied by evacuating?

Overall, I still enjoyed the opening series. No, it wasn't the next great TV show, but the story and characters were interesting enough to make me look past its failings at least enough to turn it on weekly. I maintain that Strand is easily the most interesting character on the show.

Vandyn_sl said:

Yea I was meh on the last episode. I would say the old man unleashing 2000+ zombies caused the downfall of LA but it looks like it was already there anyway. I also like how it magically became daytime while it they were inside looking for Slate(?) and the kid.

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Strand is the guy's name.

And I believe in the previous episode, they said that Operation Cobalt was being enacted at 0900. That means that the happenings on the episode were likely all taking place in the early hours of the morning.

Strand figures he needs sacrifices to go to shore for fresh water / food etc. When he runs out of scavengers he could always replace them. That thing has enough fuel to keep generators running for a decade unless he plains on sailing it to China.

Also, pirate season!?

I thought the same thing.. Hispanic guy probably help bring down the entire city and more than likely the majority of the region by unleashing 2000 zombies into semi contained area, just to save two people..

Was kinda hoping he would have yelled out "TTTRRRAAAAIIIIIIINNNNNN!".

It was a pretty epic train by WD standards. Bonus points for nonchalance and not needing to accurately launch a bottle rocket from 100 yards away to take out the gate.

Abefroman_sl said:

That overrunning of the military compound was lame as fuck. No memo went out to the soldiers to shoot them in the fucking head?

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Of course not the military has to be portrayed as complete buffoons. The cops knew...the medical folks inside knew...the main characters know...but the military pfft no way.

Abefroman_sl said:

That overrunning of the military compound was lame as fuck. No memo went out to the soldiers to shoot them in the fucking head? They could have easily just fortified the fences by aiming their fucking weapons at the head and built a wall of dead zombie bodies. I guess it is consitent though with the lore of this universe. The dumbfucks at the prison couldn't figure out to just keep stabbing them in the head either.

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I get that they would be panicked as fuck with that many undead coming at them but at least show them killing the zombies and then the weight of the dead dead and the pushing dead causes it to collapse. I don't know if they even showed a single zombie go down in that ridiculous spray of body shots. I was glad to see the aerial shots of large parts of the city burning. I was just thinking with all the chaos and squatters and shit shouldn't we have seen at least one crazy uncontrolled fire in either show.

I don't get that they would be panicked. They were trained soldiers that have been doing patrols out in zombie territory for a week+. I get being a little uneasy over the sheer numbers but that was a shitty response. Just calmly walk up to the fence and cap them one shot at a time without weakening the integrity of the fence. Speaking of which, that was terrible perimeter security, especially for a high value base camp. I get having a temp fence for a massive residential enclave, but your HQ should have something better. In a fucking zombie apocalypse I'm spending every waking moment working on defense measures.

Overall I enjoyed the show but I felt they really missed an opportunity to show something different than the main TWD. How many of us watched the Ferguson or Baltimore riots for hours, and they give us only half an episode of that chaos. Also disappointed with the psycho army captain. There would be plenty of legitimate reasons for questionable orders and failures in the chain of command without needing to resort to having William Calley in command. They tried to go there with the doctor (hot btw, disappointing she won't be back), but that just made the army guy's actions look that much more arbitrary.

Curious where they go with this next season. Clearly they can't spend all their time at sea and continue to call itwalkingdead. I just hope it doesn't turn into TWD: California.

I love how the military compound has exactly 1 watchtower with 2 blind guards who can't see a horde of 2k zombies coming down the street.

Also they had no grenades or any explosives of any kind apparently