Final Fantasy XIV (Guide in first post)
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Grizzlebeard
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I play on PS5 but have a wireless keyboard connected up. Beyond chat I just use it for the F keys when healing/targeting for Shirk/Intervention etc.
I really don't ever want to heal by tab targeting/cursor scrolling ever again.
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I have a few macros that do the same ability with mouseover > focus target > target of target > target > self as the priority. The issue with queuing seems to be more with things that are important to keep rolling like dps GCDs. Things like Shirk, Cover, Intervention, TBN, etc all seem fine to have in a macro. The only annoying part is that when everything is a macro you lose the tooltips.
I guess I was wondering if oGCD heals work fine in mouseover macros. I'm still not 100% how the macros interact with queuing. Is it just that you can't hit them 25% prior to the GCD being up and have them fire? Seems like queuing is a non-issue for oGCDs?
Malkav
French Madman
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There is absolutely no queuing for macro.
On top of that, macro activation is finicky and may have activation delay. If used on oGCDs, you have a higher risk of clipping it into your GCD while using a macro.
Chris
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I had all that macro shit in Stormblood, but you can't be losing 0.5s on starting casts all the time.
I only have macros on ground targeting (cast at target, otherwise cast at me) and Afflatus Misery (WHM DPS spell that's procced by healing spells), since ground targeting or swapping targets on those will be a time loss anyway.
sakkath
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I only use macros for crafting. I tried them for combat, such as target 2, shirk, but it's too unreliable. I'd have to button mash the macro to make sure it went through. Found it easier to just F2 shirk.
Even for stuff like announcing when you use superbolide, I had to put a delay in the macro before doing the actual announce, since I had to button mash to make sure the invuln went off I didn't want to spam the group as well.
Even for stuff like announcing when you use superbolide, I had to put a delay in the macro before doing the actual announce, since I had to button mash to make sure the invuln went off I didn't want to spam the group as well.
Malkav
French Madman
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To make them more reliable you can put the action line a bajillion times in the macro like:
Code:
/ac Shirk <2>
/ac Shirk <2>
/ac Shirk <2>
/ac Shirk <2>
/ac Shirk <2>
/ac Shirk <2>
/ac Shirk <2>
/ac Shirk <2>
/ac Shirk <2>
/ac Shirk <2>But yeah, at this point if you want true mouse over/target keybinds might as well use plugins.
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Shirk isn't to shed aggro to the 2nd tank. Shirk is what you cast after they provoke so you don't overtake them again with your superior DPS
Being a controller player I guess you don't have that problem though
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Chris
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No, I just did it all as a Paladin which I think is the lowest DPS tank.Shirk isn't to shed aggro to the 2nd tank. Shirk is what you cast after they provoke so you don't overtake them again with your superior DPS
Being a controller player I guess you don't have that problem though
I'll keep that in mind if I do anything on Gunbreaker thanks (or if I level one of the others), however I vastly prefer Paladin as it feels very safe to have that penalty free invincibility and healing spells.
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Unless the other tank is a drooling retard you don't have to toggle off no.
On Zodiark it matters because if you take aggro back after he casts Ania on you he'll oneshot you.
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Well it matters on every fight you have to tank swap for, some you don't really have to(for example P1S) so it kinda doesn't matter, just annoying with the boss flipping around and what not.
That said even if you're PLD you can pull aggro up after a provoke depending on when it happens on your rotation and the other tanks. If you're doing big sword shit and the other tank is doing 123, you'll do more damage at that point. You shirk to solidify the tank swap and there's no fuckery. You can turn off your tank stance though that does pretty much the same thing, but you then have to remember to turn it on every time you need to swap back again, and if you forget it leads to bad shit especially if the other tank is also not shirking. I've also had cases where I tried to turn my tank stance off but it doesn't work right away(GCD rolling and what not), so I press it again but then it worked, and the 2nd press puts the tank stance back on, and now you have to wait 10secs to turn it off again. Shirking is easy and simple and unless the swap happen more often than the cd, there's no reason to not shirk.
That said even if you're PLD you can pull aggro up after a provoke depending on when it happens on your rotation and the other tanks. If you're doing big sword shit and the other tank is doing 123, you'll do more damage at that point. You shirk to solidify the tank swap and there's no fuckery. You can turn off your tank stance though that does pretty much the same thing, but you then have to remember to turn it on every time you need to swap back again, and if you forget it leads to bad shit especially if the other tank is also not shirking. I've also had cases where I tried to turn my tank stance off but it doesn't work right away(GCD rolling and what not), so I press it again but then it worked, and the 2nd press puts the tank stance back on, and now you have to wait 10secs to turn it off again. Shirking is easy and simple and unless the swap happen more often than the cd, there's no reason to not shirk.
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Folanlron
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P1S(is not required though, hell you can skip the need for swapping tank over all.)
P4S has one though but my static thinks it can be skipped not too sure as we haven't done much playing around with Hesperos in phase 2. We just kill the fool...
E12S has one that is needed though even at 90.
Chris
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Thanks for the help guys. I've gotten so much better based on the feedback here over the last 8 months or so.
I'm now max pulling and using mitigation as a tank AND doing dps as a healer!
I also deleted most of my macros, I remember having every defence cooldown on one macro when I was a fresh lv80 lol.
I'm now max pulling and using mitigation as a tank AND doing dps as a healer!
I also deleted most of my macros, I remember having every defence cooldown on one macro when I was a fresh lv80 lol.
