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Jackdaddio_sl

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Good going on the personal housing there S-E...

My guess is it's related to that thing people have been saying everytime someone in FFXIV asks for something from FFXI to be put in, be it classes or whatever..."Because this isn't FFXI. If I wanted that I'd go play that."

I think SE doesn't want to pull too much from FFXI because then the people there might unsub and just start playing this instead. I mean, if you had the same game basically except graphics that were over a decade newer, the same class/job system with all the same exact classes... why keep paying a sub for old shit?
 

sukik

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I haven't played in a while but from what I gather this is all kinda stemming from their want of populated neighborhoods. I ran around the neighborhoods a few weeks after fc housing was released and the places were all ghost towns just like lotr. While it sounds nice to having some virtual place were you can hang out with your online homies while not killing stuff few are actually going to do it. Instanced, cheap and highly customizable because noone gives a shit about a personal online MMO home except the person who created it and a few enthusiasts. Not trying to be demeaning because I also occasionally like to mess with housing in MMO's but I don't expect anyone else to care about what I've done.
 

Pyros

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Personal housing is pretty garbage and a really quick rushed job, but I didn't care much about it so doesn't matter too much to me. I assume with the backlash, 2.4 housing might be a lot better too. Lots of cool changes other than that, besides the stupid gamepad bug that seems to be really bad, basically anyone on a PS4 can't raid atm due to acceleration in movement. I assume this will get hotfixed quickly though.
 

axeman_sl

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It got old after two weeks for me. The game is so mechanically primitive, it feels like WoW's predecessor from which Blizzard stole and improved all of their mechanics for early WoW. FFXIV feels like a game that has regressed ten years in MMORPG history, featuring some of the least innovative skill and build mechanics in modern gaming. Graphics aside, FFXIV belongs in 2003.
 

Chris

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Yeah Coerthas is probably the biggest zone in FFXIV and it's fucking ridiculously large. Don't know about EQ, but it takes about 10mins on mount to run from one point around the map and back, and all of it is heavily populated, has points of interests, cool looking stuff, caves that add a decent bit of stuff in them and various building as well as 3 little cities. On foot, even with the bard speed song which is kinda like SoW, it'd take like 20mins to do the whole thing(maybe less due to sprint). And even doing a circle around he zone you don't explore most of it, if you were to check every points of interest in the zone you'd easily take like 30minutes, especially with the cave systems in there. Other zones are generally smaller, but most are still fairly large. On mount and going from point A to point B might not make it seem like it, but when you're for example looking for hunts, it generally takes you 5-8mins to do a round of the zone to check.

Mounts here are a big factor, since they're given early and move noticeably faster than normal running speed. Makes the zone smaller, this and TPing as usual, and most quests are split into quest hubs and stuff so you rarely get to do full zone runs, you generally go from the hub to the surrounding areas then when you're done you're sent to another hub. It's the design that makes them look smaller than they really are and looking for hunts makes that pretty apparent.
The music in Game of Thrones Online is pretty awesome too!
 

Jackdaddio_sl

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Got 3 mil and thinking to buy a house, but I'm gonna hold out a bit until I see if they uncock this process like they said.

Hard to believe all this time and still isn't proper.
 

Xaxius

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Year #1 Census data released...

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The rest can be found here...

FFXIV Census 2014 - Imgur
 

Pyros

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Bunch of classes get their last cross class skill at 34 actually, Quelling Strikes for archer, Blood for Blood for lancer, Mercy Stroke for Marauder, so yeah. Bump at 26 for same reason, especially Swiftcast for Thaumaturge. Bump at 30 from people who unlocked the job and stopped there. Massive bump at 15 from the requirements to unlock a job being 30main class and 15 sub class.

Census stats were fairly useless, today they're talking about 2.4 though.
 

misery_sl

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I should be excited for this, but my free trial ends in 4 days. I think I got my 60 days worth out of this game. I couldn't even stay logged in for more than 30 minutes the other night. I guess it serves me right for playing so much over those two months.
 

Asmadai

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Idk, I mean to each his own I guess, but whenever I play this game I can't see the problems anyone finds with it, at all. I don't see why everyone out there isn't playing this game. I just came back to it after our WoW guild went on break from SoO as a sort of vacation, but damn I'm enjoying every bit of my time here. I even got a WoD Beta invite and didn't give two shits. /shrug
 

Pyros

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Video dump in case you missed the live letter, has rogue/ninja using random skills(nothing new there), the 3 new dungeons and the Shiva arena:


 

Xaxius

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I don't see why everyone out there isn't playing this game. I just came back to it after our WoW guild went on break from SoO as a sort of vacation, but damn I'm enjoying every bit of my time here. I even got a WoD Beta invite and didn't give two shits. /shrug
People like different games. Plain and simple. Out of all the major MMO releases in the last year though (Wildstar, ESO, & FFXIV), FFXIV is seemingly doing the best. They seem to be actually growing (11/6/13,3/14/14,9/3/14). That tells me that people really do like this game, which should enable them to continue their impressive display of content output for the foreseeable future. A friend of mine told me the other day that he read somewhere that FFXIV was where old MMO players go to retire, I can't really argue with that.
 

Grizzlebeard_sl

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Whenever I see these videos I really have to fight the urge to resubscribe. Then I remember that the dungeons become old after the fifth or sixth run and everyone is on autopilot capping their "new" tomestones (which'll have an awful droprate that they'll subsequently increase two month's later) over a few days in the one with the optimum rate followed by the weekly wait for resets so they can do it all over again. I know all MMOs are hamster wheels but S-E have done a historically terrible job of disguising it.
 

ixian_sl

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Whenever I see these videos I really have to fight the urge to resubscribe. Then I remember that the dungeons become old after the fifth or sixth run and everyone is on autopilot capping their "new" tomestones (which'll have an awful droprate that they'll subsequently increase two month's later) over a few days in the one with the optimum rate followed by the weekly wait for resets so they can do it all over again. I know all MMOs are hamster wheels but S-E have done a historically terrible job of disguising it.
Sadly how I feel about it too. I came back for the free weekend they did recently and ended up subbing for a month, but after I ran the new dungeons a couple of times I realized I didn't want to do them anymore. I'd actually be okay with grinding the dungeons if there were a point to it besides the currency (ie: rare loot), but with the way their itemization is and the rigid structure they use to dole it out, that ain't gonna happen. That said, I hope the expansion will be interesting.
 

Needless

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This has probably been asked before but is there a changelog of whats different between the most recent patch and the original release?