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Penance

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Well I leveled up on a 2x rate server. I had a sub 30 person on Gilgamesh and yea it was bad. But when I rerolled all I had to do was MSQ to level up. Once you get to a certain level (60?) Anything you level up again gives you 2x rate (I think...) so if you can slog through the initial part the server decision shouldn't weigh to heavily.

Highly suggest slogging through it though since the end game is sooooooooo much better. I occasionally do the leveling duties (which you should definitely be doing) and it's so painful to play the game on slow mo again.
 

dvoraen

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Alt class yeah but not at floor 50. I will grind up to that and report back.
Yeah, for PotD the experience is lower upon completing 10/20/30/40, iirc, and 41-50 and 51+ are the "max" possible reward they give out for completion of the boss.
 

yamikazo

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The game is anti-grind. Just doing your leveling roulette will give you over a level, but you can only do it once a day. Way more exp than PotD.
 

a_skeleton_03

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I was in the 40’s and it wouldn’t let me go to the next one because it said my gear was too low so I reset. I will be back up to 50 today.
 

Pyros

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I was in the 40’s and it wouldn’t let me go to the next one because it said my gear was too low so I reset. I will be back up to 50 today.
Ah right it does that sometimes I forgot how it works been so long since I did it the first time and my new account doesn't have HW so I can't do potd(well can't do it past 40, so might as well not do it at all).

It might be more than 1 run though it's been a while, might be 2. I think it switches to 3runs per lvl around, 43 or so? But the runs are pretty fast. Squadrons might be faster too I'm not sure I never used these and don't have a class that can use them on my main account.

I found leveling all classes to be fairly easy and relaxed though, but it gets grindy if you're trying to dump 6hours into it in a row. It was posted before but the "right" way is to just do your daily leveling roulette on even levels, then queue for the new dungeon on odd levels(in ARR the dungeons aren't every other level though so that works a bit differently), while you do beastmen tribes and daily bounty hunts(the HW/SB ones, the ARR ones are shit) while waiting for the queue to pop. Can also do trial roulette, pre50 there's hunting log too. Basically you do this stuff takes like, 2-2.5 hours, that's 2 levels, and then you do something else like expert roulette on your main, some crafting whatever, and just do that everyday for a while. Can mix in sidequests/fates while waiting on queues if you want to do a 3rd level.

It's definitely not super fast to level alts, but it's relatively simple and you can get side content done at the same time(beast tribes especially). Worst case you just do leveling roulette for 1 level a day, takes like 20mins and you're done. Obviously this will take a while to get all classes to cap, but a lot of people opt for something like that, very low time investment, good if you have stuff to do on your main too and not much time to play and you're leveling alts just for the sake of leveling them rather than for rerolling. It's like how you can level all your crafts to cap just doing ixal/moogle/namazu daillies+GC delivery turn ins which takes like an hour to do on all classes and gets you like 30% of a level on everything + 30% on the class that does the beastmen daillies, and eventually you have everything capped without having spent much time or effort into it.
 

a_skeleton_03

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Yeah I am not really complaining just remembering how other jobs that you aren’t doing your MSQ on are a bit of a grind with this game compared to something like WoW.
 

Cybsled

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Not much if you level gathering classes. If you are buying all the mats off MB or quest items off MB, then ya you'll need a lot of money. If you gather, then it requires extremely minimal gil investment to get to a decent spot. Plus, while the housing market has cooled, you can usually find a moderate demand for some frequently used housing items that people need large quantities of or use all the time, like wall planters or things like varnish, to help generate some income. I was flat broke in the game and money came hard until I started gathering/crafting, then I was sitting on 60mil before I knew it and got a mansion.

If you have people in your guild who are higher level crafters, you could also ask they help you out with HQ quest items if you provide the mats. It can be fairly difficult to get HQ crafts before you acquire all the various cross-craft skills.

Also, once you hit 50, you can do the Mog tribe beast quests once you unlock that, which makes HW crafting leveling much easier as well.
 

a_skeleton_03

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Yeah my goal isn’t to make money off it but to be 100% self sustaining eventually and I actually like their crafting system.

Anything I must know ahead of time to get gathering skills leveled smoothly?
 

Pyros

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Yeah my goal isn’t to make money off it but to be 100% self sustaining eventually and I actually like their crafting system.

Anything I must know ahead of time to get gathering skills leveled smoothly?
Once you hit heavensward levels, look up collectibles, they're faster than leves for gathering and let you save leves for crafting. If you're doing a crafting push you'll probably want 100leves, unless you want to do it slowly overtime then just do GC turn ins+beast tribe quests(in SB with Namazu, Moogles are crafting only and Ixali only has a few gathering quests not enough to be worth it) and that'll be fine. Before that leves and daily GC turn ins and it's boring as shit.

If you setup your squadron stuff properly you can get some gathering xp tomes thingies every week and preferably you'd do it in a FC with gathering xp buff on, obviously eat it's a free 3% xp. Can also burn GC seals to buy some more buffs from that. All of that works of crafting too.

Oh and probably avoid fishing, it's kinda its own thing and it doesn't really help much with crafting materials other than CUL and even then you can just use other shit like plants/fruits from BTN.
 
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dvoraen

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Once you hit heavensward levels, look up collectibles, they're faster than leves for gathering and let you save leves for crafting. If you're doing a crafting push you'll probably want 100leves, unless you want to do it slowly overtime then just do GC turn ins+beast tribe quests(in SB with Namazu, Moogles are crafting only and Ixali only has a few gathering quests not enough to be worth it) and that'll be fine. Before that leves and daily GC turn ins and it's boring as shit.

If you setup your squadron stuff properly you can get some gathering xp tomes thingies every week and preferably you'd do it in a FC with gathering xp buff on, obviously eat it's a free 3% xp. Can also burn GC seals to buy some more buffs from that. All of that works of crafting too.

Oh and probably avoid fishing, it's kinda its own thing and it doesn't really help much with crafting materials other than CUL and even then you can just use other shit like plants/fruits from BTN.
@a_skeleton_03 Also, regarding collectibles, once you hit 58? for their turnins, you can start earning red scrips. Then you can use those to buy the other +exp boosts from the scrip vendors, for both crafting and gathering, but in the case of gathering it's less impactful compared to crafting (since you won't be farming much with gatherers compared to crafter production).
 

Pyros

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Oh also once you're, hmm, 60 maybe, maybe before, you get the weekly shit with Zhloe or Khloe whichever catgirl it is, the adult one in Idylshire, the little catgirl is for the weekly duty book thing; and these don't give much xp but they give a shitload of scrips so you definitely want to do these and increase your rep with her. Might start before 60 I'm not sure since I did these at 70 only since I skipped most of HW content. It's basically weekly collectible quests for big scrips payouts, and scrips are useful for leveling too you can buy some good HW scrip gear and not have to change your gear at all until 70. Great for gathering since there's only 2 set of tools to buy(it's more messy with crafting). Even if you don't want to do that, you can use scrips to buy the gathering/crafting books at 70 with the same scrips(well the first couple tiers of them) as well as 70 gear. They're like tomes, but don't constantly rotate out.

But yeah like gathering is pretty interesting because it starts like your usual garbage mmo gathering, you go from node to node clicking the shit, you have a few skills but mostly they mean you get more mats or HQ mats sometimes, and then you're out of GP anyway. But once you hit the HW levels and collectibles become a thing, it becomes its own minigame shit similar to crafting. You stop gathering random garbage anymore and mostly focus on timed spawn and using a solid rotation to get the most out of each node and then get a lot of xp when you turn in. Bunch of afking between node spawns though, it's good to do while watching TV or something.
 

Cybsled

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For gathering skills, if you are starting from scratch, then you pretty much have to mine/gather grind for the first 15 levels or so. Leveling gathering without leves is pretty tedious. Collectables don't unlock until 50 or so, so they don't help you at all early on. Even after 50, unless you have unlimited cordials, collectables can be pretty time consuming to get since you need a minimum collectable level to even be able to hand it in.

There is a daily grand company handin for some XP you can do as filler. For gathering leves, your best bang for the buck is the evaluation leves. If you score high, you get a ton of XP. There are guides online that show how you can force the evaluation leves to be the only ones available (you basically have to accept the non-evaluation ones and basically sit on them/dont hand them in).

You do also want leves for crafting, but you at least have the option there of being a bit more efficient. HQ handins double the reward, which means you can save leves. You really only burn through leves fast if you are just spamming low quality handins to fast earn XP.

With gathering, though, you can spam craft to get some XP. For instance, if you gather lots of logs, you can just spam craft lumber on your carpenter for instance for some XP. Any grind you do (craft or gather), it is worth popping those bonus XP scrolls to make it more efficient.

Edit: Like Pyros said, doing the custom deliveries every week is your friend. You actually get some decent XP for them (Zhloe nets good XP until 60, then you can do the SB stuff). If your goal is scrip, then use your best crafter to earn as high a quality score as possible to guarantee larger scrip payouts. The XP amount is static, regardless to quality, though. The crafting gear you can buy with scrips is extremely helpful and your only option unless you want to pay out the ass for crafted stuff (at 70).
 
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a_skeleton_03

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I have never done a leve in the game I don’t think.

Yeah I think BTN is close to level 10 and MIN is level 0 so I will do their logs and tryo just grind them out up to 15 before I really start to go down the leves.
 

Rezz

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Don't forget the Ehcatl quests which I think you can start at combat class level 44. It's the ARR crafting/gathering beast tribe stuff, and after doing them for like a week solid (just use the same class to get to the point where you can do the more "difficult" stuff faster) and you'll be using up 9 of your 12 beast dailies just for crafting/gathering. Easily able to move up a couple of levels a day on that alone, but completely stops giving real xp once you hit 50. And yeah, Grand Company dailies are your friend, but do -not- do the terrible beast tribe material hand in quest. They removed it from subsequent tribes, and it is very much a massive waste of resources for very little gain. Skip that one~

I am just now playing again and starting the Namasu grind; I had a lot going on when the game came out and only beat the main story near release before taking a long break. Always glad to see the quality of the storylines and the entertainment value is still pretty high, right up until it comes down to farming tomestones again~
 

Rezz

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edit - nevermind; explicitly states you can't change classes now, at least for the Namasu. =/
 

Cybsled

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Namasu beast tribe gives insane crafting XP, though. Doing nothing but those quests, you can pretty much level a crafting class to 70 in around a week.