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Were talking about basic math, not who gets into MIT.Back then only the best of the best and the wealthy got those educations. We as a population are better at math than we were 50 years ago, the difference is we have higher standards for the WHOLE population now, and not just a tiny subset of it.
How do you explain kids with a high school degree (I personally do not have one) that can't make change at McDonalds if the machine doesn't tell them?And Borzak was specifically talking about world class engineers solving massive problems, i.e. those who got into MIT...or more accurately for the period, went to highschool/college at all. Middle school students weren't getting us to the moon.
The only thing wrong with the old way was kids who didn't want to pay attention or a couple of generations who saw no value of learning while actually in school. If you can't read/write and do simple addition by the time you graduate you either have a severe learning disability or just don't give a fuck.Speaking from what my kids bring home, they still place an emphasis on rote memorization of single digit addition and the subsequent subtraction of up to 18. What these methods do though, is they allow teachers to go into more advanced forms of math at an earlier age by, as Chris stated, breaking it down a bit more into something they can understand. I pointed out earlier that my daughter, who is in first grade, brought home an assignment that had her doing a form of division. And she did it, even though she didn't necessarily make that connection. All she knew is that she had to break up 12 boxes into smaller, equal groups of boxes. Initially she broke it into groups of three boxes, creating four groups total, but afterward she said, "I kind of want to do it with two boxes so I can get six groups."
Education as a whole has moved on past what was used when we were kids. A lot of it has to do with the understanding that people learn in different ways. What common core is trying to do is create a means by which the primary methods of learning (visual, audio, kinetic) are combined in the lessons so everyone learns. It seems more complex than it actually is.
TLDR: Bitch all you want, common core is here until something else comes along.
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And you can NOT show your children the "old" way. My sons teacher had a conniption when I helped him with his homework, the only way my old ass knows how.
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I know right? I was starting college at age 7, it only takes one lesson to learn each thing right? In fact I'm pretty sure I was BORN knowing this shit.Are our children too fucking stupid to comprehend basic subtraction in this day and age? What voodoo magic is going to be taught when theyre learning calculus?
I think you're answering your own question. Many people are bad at basic math nowadays because they don'tneedto be good at it. Because, as you've said, we have shit like powered cash registers and everyone walks around with a calculator in their pocket (phone). How many baby boomers do you know that can't use a computer or operate a smart phone to save their lives? I know many. Different generations, different technology, different skillsets emphasized in the daily lives of average people.How do you explain kids with a high school degree (I personally do not have one) that can't make change at McDonalds if the machine doesn't tell them?
I know everyone but 1 person in that pic I posted. Everyone was just as poor as my dad who were failed cotton farmers during the depression (working someone elses land) and all the ones I know became sucessful people who do math everyday.
When we have our frequent hurricanes and the stores don't have power they often resort to having stuff priced to exactly a multiple of a dollar with tax because the young people can't make change without a powered cash register.
Lets be honest... any children who need that new way to do simple subtraction probably aren't going to be taking calculus everAre our children too fucking stupid to comprehend basic subtraction in this day and age? What voodoo magic is going to be taught when theyre learning calculus?
That comic's pretty fucking dumb, it's insinuating black people somehow excel in our current system.The problem is, in the U.S. at least, education reform has become a business. If you "fix" education, then there is no more government money coming in.
Have you thought about changing the system to be about swimming? Pools closed. It's a dolphin's world again, haHAA!That comic's pretty fucking dumb, it's insinuating black people somehow excel in our current system.
ITT: people who only know how to do something one way, saying that's the best and only way needed. It's funny in a sad kinda way, most of you would be in the Political thread mocking Republicans who want woman to stay at home and raise kids, and have no access to birth control. You know, like it used to be.