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Gavinmad

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948.60(2)(a)(a) Any person under 18 years of age who possesses or goes armed with a dangerous weapon is guilty of a Class A misdemeanor.


What part of that very simple sentence isn't crystal clear?
 

Ambiturner

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I can understand what he's saying and he's probably right. The law was written and the SBR portion is there because it would then be a different and higher level crime. It wouldn't make any sense for the same exact crime be both a misdemeanor and a felony.

However, it wasn't written very clearly and that's the angle the defense is going with. Not a bad strategy if its a mostly female jury that knows little to nothing about guns
 

popsicledeath

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948.60(2)(a)(a) Any person under 18 years of age who possesses or goes armed with a dangerous weapon is guilty of a Class A misdemeanor.


What part of that very simple sentence isn't crystal clear?

Ah, so a 17 year old member of the military is in violation of this law? And the armorer who provided them the dangerous weapon is to be charged according to 948.60?

It's right there in that very simple sentence. A minor in possession of a dangerous weapon is guilty of a misdemeanor.
 
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Gavinmad

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Have they charged the friend who bought/provided the weapon?
Yes, two counts of intentionally giving a dangerous weapon to a minor, causing death, which is a Class H felony.

Ah, so a 17 year old member of the military is in violation of this law? And the armorer who provided them the dangerous weapon is to be charged according to 948.60?

It's right there in that very simple sentence. A minor in possession of a dangerous weapon is guilty of a misdemeanor.
Wow, almost like one of the exceptions in 948.60(3) specifically addresses this. Too bad no part of 948.60(3) applies to Kyle.
 

popsicledeath

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I can understand what he's saying and he's probably right. The law was written and the SBR portion is there because it would then be a different and higher level crime. It wouldn't make any sense for the same exact crime be both a misdemeanor and a felony.

He could be right, which is why I've tried to discuss it. I just find it interesting he can't even articulate a basic argument and instead just keeps pointing and saying "see!" over and over. As he then says it's so clear, ignoring there are other exemptions and clarifications like for service members.

All over an issue that is apparently not clear as it's in dispute in this trial.

They should called in Gavin to point at the law and say "see!" to clear things up for the court.
 

popsicledeath

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Wow, almost like one of the exceptions in 948.60(3) specifically addresses this. Too bad no part of 948.60(3) applies to Kyle.

That's my point. There are exemptions. You citing the basic law and saying it's a simple sentence is dumb when even the court is trying to clarify and sort out interpretations of potential exemptions.

Even when/if you're right you're still consistently an idiot.

Wait, are you not a native English speaker? Honest question maybe that's my frustration.
 

popsicledeath

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You seem to be the only one having trouble.

People who have a rational and clear point to make, and the ability to make them, simply do. You've stated and opinion with absolute confidence, when asked for your reasoning linked the generic law instead of providing insight/argument, told people asking questions they were dumb for not agreeing, negged posts, and posted one liners.

All instead of just articulating your point.

Why? Why not just provide your rationale when asked?
 

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Not as cut and dry as you think. They actually talked about this during the trial.
 
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Some truth still shines through the darkness of the Twitterverse. Mainly from people with no pull but still good to see.
 
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You know how bad the video footage is? It's so bad that the fat sack of shit actually points his stick at the wrong group of people at 1:51.40

 
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popsicledeath

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Not as cut and dry as you think.

Nope, sorry, settled law. Rittenhouse trial judge and Dominick Black pleading not guilty to litigate the matter just aren't up to the speed of this thread where we settled that law by linking to the law and saying it's obvious.
 

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Some truth still shines through the darkness of the Twitterverse. Mainly from people with no pull but still good to see.


Little of it would change, honestly.

Just like how Larry Elder was the "blackface of white supremacy", liberals don't consider you black if you don't align with them
 
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Gavinmad

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Not as cut and dry as you think. They actually talked about this during the trial.
Not one person disputed it until Kyle's lawyer got them whacked out on hopium. And like I said, I hope his lawyer talking in retarded circles works because I'd love to see him walk away completely clean.
 

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Gavinmad

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Nope, I maintain you're smoking crack or reading this wrong. However, if Lithose wants to come school me, I'm all for it.
I'd be more interested in what Cad or the other forum lawyer (name on the tip of my tongue but escaping me atm) had to say since they're the only ones I'd consider to likely be more versed in interpretation of law than the forum cop, who thinks I'm probably right. Although I don't think either one is a criminal lawyer so maybe it's a wash.

Credit to Kyle's lawyer for successfully creating/exaggerating the appearance of ambiguity though, he may be better at his job than we thought.
 

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4chan /pol brought up an interesting question. If Kyle skates will Biden, who already publicly labeled the kid a White Supremacist send Garland in the drum up some Fed Charges like they had planned to do to Chauvin if he walked.

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