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she was 20 when we started datingGaige said:Your ex is kind of young Ham, don"t you think!
she was 20 when we started datingGaige said:Your ex is kind of young Ham, don"t you think!
They do, but there"s some troubling shit in there. Her telling your mutual friends that you weren"t dating is messed up, especially the 2nd time. What if they had taken her side and not said anything to you?ham said:You guys realize good people make bad decisions, right? I"m about as jaded as it comes to relationships. I"ve lived with a GF before, been cheated on before, dealt with way too much drama, etc. I"m only recently 28, but I feel like I"ve been around enough women to tell which ones are really just out for themselves and fuck the rest and others that may be good, but just make a bad decision. I think this girl is the latter. My ex before her was the former.
I realize I sound like ever babbling idiot with the balls to walk away from a bad situation, but I"m trying not to do anything drastic because I really haven"t even processed this for an entire day yet.
Wait...you want to be fucking friends with the chick who basically just annihilated your trust and stabbed you in the back? Jesus fuck man, grow a fucking pair. You obviously didn"t get the hint after the first fucking woman did it to you and surprise, surprise, you got walked all over yet again. But hey, she just made a "bad decision", bro! 3rd time is a charm!ham said:You guys realize good people make bad decisions, right? I"m about as jaded as it comes to relationships. I"ve lived with a GF before, been cheated on before, dealt with way too much drama, etc. I"m only recently 28, but I feel like I"ve been around enough women to tell which ones are really just out for themselves and fuck the rest and others that may be good, but just make a bad decision. I think this girl is the latter. My ex before her was the former.
I realize I sound like ever babbling idiot with the balls to walk away from a bad situation, but I"m trying not to do anything drastic because I really haven"t even processed this for an entire day yet.
Eomer: that sounds like money in the bank already
This. But seriously, Eomer, you need to get on that shit and quick. She"s making obvious attempts to get on your nuts and if you keep ignoring her/moving slow, she"s going to move on. But you"re notorious for that, so keep being wordy with her and then come back wondering why she didn"t want to fuck you after you danced around her for 8 months.Grumpus said:You should have knocked on her door wearing nothing but a tool belt filled with dildos and told her that you can fix that leak for her.
It"s not like she was jumbling the guy"s balls around in her mouth. She kissed him and Ham pulled the plug; seems pretty reasonable. What do you want him to do, murder her fucking family? Seems like "annihilating trust" and "stabbed you in the back" are a little over zealous.Kirun said:Wait...you want to be fucking friends with the chick who basically just annihilated your trust and stabbed you in the back? Jesus fuck man, grow a fucking pair. You obviously didn"t get the hint after the first fucking woman did it to you and surprise, surprise, you got walked all over yet again. But hey, she just made a "bad decision", bro! 3rd time is a charm!
Hint: The next chick is going to cheat on you too, unless you grow a sack.
I guess I missed the part where he got it confirmed that this is as far as they went. If he did, I apologize, but my statement still stands. He ended it, sure(good first step), but now he wants to stay friends with the bitch? Seriously?Lenas said:It"s not like she was jumbling the guy"s balls around in her mouth. She kissed him and Ham pulled the plug; seems pretty reasonable. What do you want him to do, murder her fucking family?
Annihilating trust seems pretty applicable with the repeated lies about them not dating to people who know they are dating.Lenas said:It"s not like she was jumbling the guy"s balls around in her mouth. She kissed him and Ham pulled the plug; seems pretty reasonable. What do you want him to do, murder her fucking family? Seems like "annihilating trust" and "stabbed you in the back" are a little over zealous.
Had the friends not ratted her out, who"s to say that wasn"t about to happen?Lenas said:I guess I would just save terms like that for a chick that was actually out banging dudes.
I"m with Kirun on this. You can"t be friends with the bitch after something like this. The fact that she denied your relationship completely is a bigger deal than her kissing some dude in my opinion. Break all contact with this girl and be done. Then you might be able have her eating out of your hand.Kirun said:I guess I missed the part where he got it confirmed that this is as far as they went. If he did, I apologize, but my statement still stands. He ended it, sure(good first step), but now he wants to stay friends with the bitch? Seriously?
Thirded.Rags8o said:The fact that she denied your relationship completely is a bigger deal than her kissing some dude in my opinion.
Fair point all around in the thread, but this is what drives it home for me and the reason my anger levels went where they went when I heard. I"m trying to handle things calmly and rationally, because I was seeing red pissed last night, and holding onto that anger wasn"t doing anyone any good.The Ancient said:Thirded.
Her friends didn"t rat her out from the road. They got home, my gf came over, told me what happened within 2 minutes of seeing me. I broke up with her, told her to get out of my house, and then went out (I was on my way out anyway). From the road I texted her friend that she cheated on me during their trip, that"s when I got the rest of the details.Had the friends not ratted her out, who"s to say that wasn"t about to happen?
Pretty much my approach, though I do feel like she annihilated my trust, especially with the lying. The kissing apparently stopped almost immediately, I was told early on, but it"s the lying that really damned the entire thing. Her trust with me is completely fucked right now and it will take her a long time to earn it back, if she ever gets this. She knows this and wasn"t asking for anything in return when she told me that she will show me how much harder she is going to try to not fuck things up with me and how she will prove I can trust her again one day. We"ve dated basically 19 of the 25 months we"ve known each other and have never problem that lasted more than a few hours.It"s not like she was jumbling the guy"s balls around in her mouth. She kissed him and Ham pulled the plug; seems pretty reasonable. What do you want him to do, murder her fucking family?
From the outside with no basis obviously it doesn"t seem like a lot. Again, we"ve dated for the better part of two years, so it"s not like I"m picking up some 22 year old sorority chic to be my buddy, don"t be so dense. I have interest in seeing if our relationship is repairable, I don"t know if I can be friends with her, I don"t know if I will be back with her again one day, but I"m willing to make a rare exception and see how the following days and weeks worth themself out regarding this mess.Not only can I predict that the turning an ex into friends isn"t going to end up well (because it RARELY ever does), what are you going to get out of a friendship with a 22 year old girl, at 28 years old?
Chalking it up to karma? Do yourself a favor and throw her out of your life, she won"t change and you can"t change her. The end.ham said:Fair point all around in the thread, but this is what drives it home for me and the reason my anger levels went where they went when I heard. I"m trying to handle things calmly and rationally, because I was seeing red pissed last night, and holding onto that anger wasn"t doing anyone any good.
Her friends didn"t rat her out from the road. They got home, my gf came over, told me what happened within 2 minutes of seeing me. I broke up with her, told her to get out of my house, and then went out (I was on my way out anyway). From the road I texted her friend that she cheated on me during their trip, that"s when I got the rest of the details.
Pretty much my approach, though I do feel like she annihilated my trust, especially with the lying. The kissing apparently stopped almost immediately, I was told early on, but it"s the lying that really damned the entire thing. Her trust with me is completely fucked right now and it will take her a long time to earn it back, if she ever gets this. She knows this and wasn"t asking for anything in return when she told me that she will show me how much harder she is going to try to not fuck things up with me and how she will prove I can trust her again one day. We"ve dated basically 19 of the 25 months we"ve known each other and have never problem that lasted more than a few hours.
I know the circumstances of her situation had a lot to do with how things went down, I think moreso than she even realizes. Had I been on a vacation with a girl for 2 weeks who was attractive and pushing the issue, I might"ve cracked, I don"t know if I would"ve come home and admitted it and I know my friends wouldn"t have thrown me under the bus.
This isn"t about "growing a pair", I don"t have an agenda beyond what happens on a day to day basis as of right now, she doesn"t seem to have one either. I like how being a jealous, smothering boyfriend is some people"s definition of growing a sack. Someone is going to cheat on you if they want to, no matter how protective you are. The last time I was cheating on (with proof) was high school, so I"ve done okay. I haven"t been the perfect boyfriend to anyone either, and I doubt most here can say they have. I did some things in Vegas that many guys here would flip their shit over if the story was their girlfriend
From the outside with no basis obviously it doesn"t seem like a lot. Again, we"ve dated for the better part of two years, so it"s not like I"m picking up some 22 year old sorority chic to be my buddy, don"t be so dense. I have interest in seeing if our relationship is repairable, I don"t know if I can be friends with her, I don"t know if I will be back with her again one day, but I"m willing to make a rare exception and see how the following days and weeks worth themself out regarding this mess.
Her friends are unreasonably and extremely pissed at her for lying to them about me too, which is weird, because I barely know them. They"re showing themselves to be angrier than even I am (they aren"t, but they"re being more expressive).
Girls are too blame ultimately for situations like this, but I think most of us can admit to being in situations where we could have or tried to get a girl who was with someone else to fool around with them. I pressed the issue with a girl who had a boyfriend once and she slept with me. Ultimately she was to blame obviously, but I had a very serious impact on making sure she fucked up. What goes around I guess
It may be repairable, it all depends on what you can handle. Odds are it isn"t though. Waiting on the days and weeks to pan out is going to be hell on you imo. What are you going to do? Talk about it with her daily? Take her out on a few more dates and have the mindset your working on your relationship?ham said:From the outside with no basis obviously it doesn"t seem like a lot. Again, we"ve dated for the better part of two years, so it"s not like I"m picking up some 22 year old sorority chic to be my buddy, don"t be so dense. I have interest in seeing if our relationship is repairable, I don"t know if I can be friends with her, I don"t know if I will be back with her again one day, but I"m willing to make a rare exception and see how the following days and weeks worth themself out regarding this mess.
I"m going to stop you right there. Her friends are eating this shit up and I"d bet that they are playing both sides of the fence on the issue. They are HER friends after all. Don"t talk to them about this. Instead talk/go out with your friends.ham said:Her friends are unreasonably and extremely pissed at her for lying to them about me too, which is weird, because I barely know them. They"re showing themselves to be angrier than even I am (they aren"t, but they"re being more expressive).
Yep, but when women are dating someone they actually care about and enjoy being with they don"t put themselves in a situation to fuck up.ham said:Girls are too blame ultimately for situations like this, but I think most of us can admit to being in situations where we could have or tried to get a girl who was with someone else to fool around with them. I pressed the issue with a girl who had a boyfriend once and she slept with me. Ultimately she was to blame obviously, but I had a very serious impact on making sure she fucked up. What goes around I guess
Who said anything about being a smothering, jealous boyfriend? It"s about being a fuckingman. Amandoesn"t go back to being "friends" with the bitch who just ripped his heart out and annihilated his trust. People like that are only going to do it again, especially when theyknowyou"ll fucking forgive them for it.ham said:I like how being a jealous, smothering boyfriend is some people"s definition of growing a sack.