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TJT

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So I am taking it that Sam is fucking off of Maester School and just returning to the Wall. For the sake of the plot?
 

Cybsled

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When you think about Dany's army, it is going to destroy the very thing she wants to reclaim. Viking-pirates (we assume), the Mongol Horde, and nuclear weapons. The first two will rape and pillage, the last will just nuke from orbit.
 

TJT

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Arya's plotline also kind of pisses me off now. Okay, she runs away from the Faceless Men. That was pretty much expected. But did she actually acquire any skills other than her ability to use the bo staff? It seems a bit of a waste if she can't actually use the Faceless magic, unless she learned how to acquire/use them in the Temple. Which we didn't see but still.

I admit it would it gets me pretty hard thinking of Arya skinning people's faces off and using them just to discard them and continue doing it.
 

Gavinmad

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Eh, she learned more than staff fighting. For all her precociousness, she was just a child. At the very least, she is now capable of taking care of herself without having to catch and eat wild birds on the streets of king's landing.

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I suppose Margaery could be playing the High Sparrow to get out of the walk of atonement, since she presumably knew nothing about the plan to rescue her and Loras. By the time she saw the soldiers it was too late for her to do anything other than keep playing along. As the queen, Margaery benefits from thing staying stable, so she wouldn't have any reason to set Tommen up for a fall. Her getting out of the walk is the only answer to that shit that makes any sense to me. Suddenly going from quiet defiance to brainwashed compliance would be unbearably stupid.
 

Tenks

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She went into the faceless thinking she'd be able to exact her revenge. She eventually learned what she'd be doing is actually killing the innocent. In her fit of initial rage she either didn't consider that aspect of the job or thought she could learn to live with it if the ends justified the means. But she learned she's not a heartless killer. Granted if that is the only payoff for multiple seasons of character progression thats pretty gay.
 

TJT

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Reddit says that Samwell stole the sword so that he returns to the North. His father is honor bound to retrieve it. Thus getting Southern forces to the Wall where they will be needed. Pretty interesting idea.

But it doesn't make much sense if Sam still goes to Oldtown to become a Maester. Let us hope for a Maester training montage.
 

Khane

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She went into the faceless thinking she'd be able to exact her revenge. She eventually learned what she'd be doing is actually killing the innocent. In her fit of initial rage she either didn't consider that aspect of the job or thought she could learn to live with it if the ends justified the means. But she learned she's not a heartless killer. Granted if that is the only payoff for multiple seasons of character progression thats pretty gay.
Especially since she didn't kill even a single person. It would have been way better if she killed a bunch of people she didn't get to know/give a shit about before she met "the one who changed her mind". Instead she meets her right away... really lame.
 

Ossoi

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Reddit says that Samwell stole the sword so that he returns to the North. His father is honor bound to retrieve it. Thus getting Southern forces to the Wall where they will be needed. Pretty interesting idea.

But it doesn't make much sense if Sam still goes to Oldtown to become a Maester. Let us hope for a Maester training montage.
I just assumed he took it for the white walker killing Valyrian steel
 

Jozu

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She went into the faceless thinking she'd be able to exact her revenge. She eventually learned what she'd be doing is actually killing the innocent. In her fit of initial rage she either didn't consider that aspect of the job or thought she could learn to live with it if the ends justified the means. But she learned she's not a heartless killer. Granted if that is the only payoff for multiple seasons of character progression thats pretty gay.
This kind of speaks to the show overall, and more of an indictment on GRMM imo. Obviously the show and the books have diverged but a lot of the story elements concerning character progression are questionable or downright meaningless. Ok so Colhands not Benjen....then what the fuck was the point of Benjen being introduced as a character at all? That another Stark died? I think D&D's decision to make him Coldhands was smart, it consolidates but also lends a bit more weight to Benjens disappearance. Think about it, a character the show introduced in SEASON ONE, returns at an opportune time when there was basically no other way to save Bran and Meera at that point. Again, its convenient, but at least it makes some kind of sense from a narrative standpoint.

Also, Coldhands/Benjen was awesome with that Darksiders esque weaponry he was rocking. I didnt really hear what he was saying but what did he say happened to him? He was killed with dragonglass and turned into .....a good white walker? lol? I must of missed something when he was talking to Bran.
 

Tenks

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Especially since she didn't kill even a single person. It would have been way better if she killed a bunch of people she didn't get to know/give a shit about before she met "the one who changed her mind". Instead she meets her right away... really lame.
In order to do it your way she'd need to become a full fledged faceless. Which her not becoming one may be important to the storyline. I think she just overestimated her heartlessness from her little list she recited and thought she could transfer those emotions onto anyone. But in reality she's more empathetic than she may think.

I'm also not 100% sure it was her rival with the great tits trying to take her out. I'm still confused how she's come up with payment of any sorts. Possibly we'll learn that the actress is actually like a child molester or something.
 

Gavinmad

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No, he was stabbed and left for dead by a white walker, and the children saved him with the dragonglass.

I'm also not 100% sure it was her rival with the great tits trying to take her out. I'm still confused how she's come up with payment of any sorts. Possibly we'll learn that the actress is actually like a child molester or something.
Dude are you serious? They showed great tits glaring at her, reciting her lines, looking guilty as fuck when Arya knocked the poison out of her hands. It's her, and the faceless men agreed to whatever price she could pay because they're a crazy death cult that gives no fucks.
 

Mures

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Drogon been eating well, how long was Dany taken by the dothraki? Drogon has doubled in size since the end of last season.
 

khalid

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I suppose Margaery could be playing the High Sparrow to get out of the walk of atonement, since she presumably knew nothing about the plan to rescue her and Loras. By the time she saw the soldiers it was too late for her to do anything other than keep playing along. As the queen, Margaery benefits from thing staying stable, so she wouldn't have any reason to set Tommen up for a fall. Her getting out of the walk is the only answer to that shit that makes any sense to me. Suddenly going from quiet defiance to brainwashed compliance would be unbearably stupid.
This seems the most probable.
 

etchazz

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This kind of speaks to the show overall, and more of an indictment on GRMM imo. Obviously the show and the books have diverged but a lot of the story elements concerning character progression are questionable or downright meaningless. Ok so Colhands not Benjen....then what the fuck was the point of Benjen being introduced as a character at all? That another Stark died? I think D&D's decision to make him Coldhands was smart, it consolidates but also lends a bit more weight to Benjens disappearance. Think about it, a character the show introduced in SEASON ONE, returns at an opportune time when there was basically no other way to save Bran and Meera at that point. Again, its convenient, but at least it makes some kind of sense from a narrative standpoint.

Also, Coldhands/Benjen was awesome with that Darksiders esque weaponry he was rocking. I didnt really hear what he was saying but what did he say happened to him? He was killed with dragonglass and turned into .....a good white walker? lol? I must of missed something when he was talking to Bran.
Benjen being Coldhands is probably going to happen in the book as well. Remember, in the book Coldhands never reveals his face, so it's likely that GRRM did that on purpose so that Coldhands could eventually turn out to be Benjen down the road. The way that Coldhands was introduced is different in the show than in the book (Coldhands shows up to help Sam get back to the wall, and helps Bran get to the Three Eyed Raven), but it also gives an opportunity to bring in more characters from the book into the show, even if the exact timelines don't match up (could we see Lady Stoneheart? Possibly!). Again, my only concern is that they still have a shit ton of plots going on here, and if HBO is to be believed, we have exactly 20 episodes left of the show. Not a lot of time to get all this finished.
 

Khane

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In order to do it your way she'd need to become a full fledged faceless. Which her not becoming one may be important to the storyline. I think she just overestimated her heartlessness from her little list she recited and thought she could transfer those emotions onto anyone. But in reality she's more empathetic than she may think.

I'm also not 100% sure it was her rival with the great tits trying to take her out. I'm still confused how she's come up with payment of any sorts. Possibly we'll learn that the actress is actually like a child molester or something.
Maybe, though if she had killed the actress would that have just made her a full fledged faceless? How many people do you need to kill before your training is considered over? The waif is still a trainee right?
 

spronk

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On the one hand I've enjoyed the Arya / faceless training, on the other hand that was a hell of a lot of episode time to devote if she is just going to say "fuck this shit, I'm outta here" on her first job. Hope it leads to something more satisfying like Arya breaking the faceless men or Jaqen revealing the faceless god looks like Arya or Bran or some crazy shit so its not just "well... bye"

Same with the high Sparrow stuff, don't really understand where its going or why Marge did what she did. I honestly expected her to die this episode, it would be a nice little way to make Cersei think that maybe the prophecy she heard wasn't true after all. Followed soon by Tommen dying.