GoT - Is Over, Post Your Drogon Sightings

I was also disappointed with the season. I think the ending could have worked if they fleshed out everything in between but it was just all so rushed. Literally the most villainous and main character (Cersei) dies offstage in a rubble of stones. And I just realized we've had no closure from the locked up Dorne amazon lady in the basement, wtf.
It's like you've just edged for a week watching shitty porn, only to orgasm blanks.

the era of terrible fanfic endings is upon us

Soygen said:

This is what happens when the author gives only how things end to a bunch of hacks who have to connect the dots to get there. This season is trash and doesn't make a lot of sense, only because they weren't able to get us there creatively. I have confidence that Martin had/has much better ideas and that a lot of the complaints we have would likely be resolved had the series been complete before the show was ever started. He just fucking sucks at getting anything done in a timely fashion and this is almost 100% for sure the only ending we're getting.

Bring on the spin offs!

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to be fair, the boat captain had 8 years to show us what he had, and he never did.

Jozu said:

Well, Bran is much more powerful than that given what we have seen.

Just the very fact that he can go into godswood and greensee events in history or whatever the fuck they call it (even the future?) that in itself would make him the most powerful person in Westeros. Thats not even factoring in his ability to Warg. He warged Hodor so he can do it to more than birds.

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Also, the theory that Bran is GRRM’s take on The Fisher King appears to be somewhat, if not completely, on target. The theory itself has been around since before the tv show aired, and now that we know the landing spot of Bran = king then the theory really begins to make sense. Book Bran especially, not so much Show Bran.

On a side note I went back and watched episodes 1-5 again last night because even though my HBO Now sub ended Monday, it is still active. Probably out of pity and being ashamed. Anyways episode 3 wasn't near as dark and I could see what was going on this time around.

Also I am with Euron, if I was Jon and going to stab the queen in the heart, I would have fucked her first. She was clearly wanting the D on the throne when he did it. Then stab the bitch. I would have rode her like a baby dragon. Then stab. WTF Jon

Almost a week later, and I'm still pissed off as hell. This entire season (and pretty much all of last season) sucked ass. So many plot holes, so much important shit left unanswered. When Bran returned to Winterfell last season, Sansa told him "you're the Lord of Winterfell." and he flat out said, "I can't be the lord of Winterfell. I can't be the lord of anything. I'm the Three Eyed Raven." Then a season later, when they make him the king, he says "why do you think I'm here?" What the fuck?

Jon Snow being a Targaryen, THE MOST IMPORTANT REVEAL IN THE ENTIRE SERIES, meant nothing to the plot.

Bran being the Three Eyed Raven meant nothing.

Melisandre returns, lights some swords on fire, and a moat, which does NOTHING to change the outcome of the battle, only delays them for about 5 minutes, then walks out and dies, like she did something epic.

Cersei, the most diabolical and cunning person in the show, just stands there from her tower and watches as her army and city are destroyed. No plan b, no surprise attack, nothing.

Varys going on and on and on about how Jon Snow needed to be the king meant nothing. The note they made such a big deal about him writing, meant nothing.

Arya being a faceless assassin meant nothing.

We finally get the fight between the Hound and the Mountain, and it meant nothing, because they were both seconds away from dying anyway. Even the battle with the Night King felt rushed and anticlimactic. Anyone who says this ending was even okay is a fucking retard.

The only reason I'm not more angry about this is that Endgame delivered pretty well. We had two chances to get epic endings in the same month, one of those chances hit so it appeased me to some extent.

But yeah, have to agree with that all. Its on par with The Last Jedi on the disappointment scale.

Soygen said:

No doubt. I'm not defending him in the least. Just "defending" the end result of the show, as it was dictated by him. If anything, the way the show nosedived is more on Martin than the show runners themselves.

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This is a point that a lot of people are missing. The show runners were never meant to handle writing duties aside from adapting for TV. And they did a mostly awesome job of it. When they took on the project, it was with the intent of GRRM finishing his books in time for the show to keep up. It's not their fault that he completely shit the bed and left them with the entire trajectory of the story in their hands. That isn't what they signed up for

etchazz said:

Jon Snow being a Targaryen, THE MOST IMPORTANT REVEAL IN THE ENTIRE SERIES, meant nothing to the plot.

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It just put a giant wedge between Jon and Dany, gave the opportunity to Jon to betray Dany by revealing the secret to the Starks, gave Sansa the opportunity to share this secret with Tyrion, knowing full well it would destabilize's Dany's allies. So yeah, the most important reveal in the entire series painted Dany into a corner and convinced her to rule by fear, which conditions the whole ending, but yeah... nothing....

Bran being the Three Eyed Raven meant nothing.

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Being the 3 Eyed Raven allowed Bran to give legitimacy to Jon's parentage (see above) and his particular relationship with the Night King lead to the victory against the undeads. So yeah... nothing...

Melisandre returns, lights some swords on fire, and a moat, which does NOTHING to change the outcome of the battle, only delays them for about 5 minutes, then walks out and dies, like she did something epic.

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Her key influence on that battle was not her parlor tricks, it was sending Arya on her path to fulfill her destiny as the Night King's killer. In the end, it was her whole purpose. Not epic, but critical.

Cersei, the most diabolical and cunning person in the show, just stands there from her tower and watches as her army and city are destroyed. No plan b, no surprise attack, nothing.

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Cersei is the one who thinks she is diabolical and cunning, but time and time again, the show reminds us (and her) that her father was right about her: she is about as stupid as she thinks she is smart.

Varys going on and on and on about how Jon Snow needed to be the king meant nothing. The note they made such a big deal about him writing, meant nothing.

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Varys' treason and him spreading far and wide Jon's secret was instrumental in painting Dany into a corner and, as such, is critical to reach the ending. So yeah... nothing...

Arya being a faceless assassin meant nothing.

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Arya being a facless assassin just meant she single-handedly wiped out the Frey. Her being a trained assassin also meant she could kill the Night King. So yeah... nothing...

We finally get the fight between the Hound and the Mountain, and it meant nothing, because they were both seconds away from dying anyway.

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I agree with you on that one, except it's not a flaw, it's the point of the story. It's a cautionary tale, for the viewers, but also, in the story itself, for Arya.

Anyone who says this ending was even okay is a fucking retard.

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Considering you don't seem to understand the story presented to you, I am not sure it's wise of you to go around calling people retards.

I agree though that Bran going from "I can't be Lord! I am not even human anymore!" to "I traveled all this way to be the King", makes very little sense.

Szlia said:

It just put a giant wedge between Jon and Dany, gave the opportunity to Jon to betray Dany by revealing the secret to the Starks, gave Sansa the opportunity to share this secret with Tyrion, knowing full well it would destabilize's Dany's allies. So yeah, the most important reveal in the entire series painted Dany into a corner and convinced her to rule by fear, which conditions the whole ending, but yeah... nothing....


Being the 3 Eyed Raven allowed Bran to give legitimacy to Jon's parentage (see above) and his particular relationship with the Night King lead to the victory against the undeads. So yeah... nothing...

Her key influence on that battle was not her parlor tricks, it was sending Arya on her path to fulfill her destiny as the Night King's killer. In the end, it was her whole purpose. Not epic, but critical.


Cersei is the one who thinks she is diabolical and cunning, but time and time again, the show reminds us (and her) that her father was right about her: she is about as stupid as she thinks she is smart.


Varys' treason and him spreading far and wide Jon's secret was instrumental in painting Dany into a corner and, as such, is critical to reach the ending. So yeah... nothing...


Arya being a facless assassin just meant she single-handedly wiped out the Frey. Her being a trained assassin also meant she could kill the Night King. So yeah... nothing...


I agree with you on that one, except it's not a flaw, it's the point of the story. It's a cautionary tale, for the viewers, but also, in the story itself, for Arya.


Considering you don't seem to understand the story presented to you, I am not sure it's wise of you to go around calling people retards.

I agree though that Bran going from "I can't be Lord! I am not even human anymore!" to "I traveled all this way to be the King", makes very little sense.

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Agreeing with Szlia in this thread makes me feel so dirty.