GoT - Is Over, Post Your Drogon Sightings
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Guest, it's time once again for the massively important and exciting FoH Asshat Tournament!
Go here and give us your nominations!Who's been the biggest Asshat in the last year? Give us your worst ones!
Chukzombi
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anything to avoid finishing the series.
| A Dance with Dragons | 2011 | Novel | A Song of Ice and Fire |
| The Wit and Wisdom of Tyrion Lannister | 2013 | Quote collection | from A Song of Ice and Fire |
| The Princess and the Queen | Novella | A Song of Ice and Fire, prequels[161][162] | |
| The Rogue Prince | 2014 | ||
| The World of Ice & Fire | Reference book | The history of Westeros, with Elio M. García Jr. and Linda Antonsson | |
| The Ice Dragon | Young adult illustrated novella | Reworked version of the original novella published in 1980, illustrated by Luis Royo[163] | |
| A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms | 2015 | Collection | compilation of the first three Tales of Dunk and Egg[164] |
| The Sons of the Dragon | 2017 | Novella | A Song of Ice and Fire, prequel[165][166] |
| Fire & Blood | 2018 | Reference book & novella collection | The history of House Targaryen |
Chukzombi
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Reflections on a Bad Year | Not a Blog
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Reflections on a Bad Year
I wrote hundreds and hundreds of pages of THE WINDS OF WINTER in 2020. The best year I’ve had on WOW since I began it. Why? I don’t know. Maybe the isolation. Or maybe I just got on a roll. Sometimes I do get on a roll.
I need to keep rolling, though. I still have hundreds of more pages to write to bring the novel to a satisfactory conclusion.
That’s what 2021 is for, I hope.
I will make no predictions on when I will finish. Every time I do, assholes on the internet take that as a “promise,” and then wait eagerly to crucify me when I miss the deadline. All I will say is that I am hopeful.
I have a zillion other things to do as well, though. My plate is full to overflowing. Every time I wrap up one thing, three more things land on me. Monkeys on my back, aye, aye, I’ve sung that song before. So many monkeys. And Kong.
I will talk about all that in a different blog post.
Meanwhile, guys and gals, please keep yourselves safe and healthy. I will try to do the same.
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Mudcrush Durtfeet
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Chukzombi
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hundreds of pages in a year really isnt something to brag about either. you usually can do a few hundred in a few months. he already says he has other projects. which confirms what we were saying about him putting this book off yet again to do more HBO shit. I'm fine with that, he deserves to have his legacy be remembered as season 8 of Dan & Dave's Game of Thrones.
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"Writing is the art of applying an ass to a seat." Someone tell this fat fuck to sit his fat ass down and just write.
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Chris
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He has the feature creep JK Rowling had when each Harry Potter book was larger than the last, but without the work ethic and organisation to actually write that many pages.
We don't need all these secondary POV characaters and we don't need everything rammed in one book, split it up into 2 books like the last one, or more.
We don't need all these secondary POV characaters and we don't need everything rammed in one book, split it up into 2 books like the last one, or more.
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Neither of you clearly understand actual writing, or art creation for that matter. The Greeks invented the concept of the ‘muse’ for a reason. That strong creative motivation when words just pour out and you just produce like a madman. But that ‘muse’ isn’t always universal. It’s not like “motivation on” and you can work on whatever.
It’s clear from his recent projects that creatively he is in a rut for the MAIN story. He is only getting spurts of inspiration/ motivation, but then he gets drawn to side projects were he can just world build or explore different characters in different stories. Or TV shows. That is what is motivating him, but it isn’t directly translating into the main story. I suspect he writes, hates what he writes, loses motivation, gets some back later and has this cycle where he is critical of what he has made and as such, doesn’t make a ton of progress.
To use a gaming analogy: it would be like raiding in eq1/WoW for 20 years. Some people keep that motivational spark, and some just get tired of it. They feel obligated to raid, but they aren’t enjoying it. They would rather play some battle royale, or a survival game, or even another MMO that rekindles that desire.
That is what trying to write without motivation is like. Like running Molten Core for the 10,000th time, when you would rather work on wiring the electric in your base in Rust
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Chukzombi
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No. He had multiple opportunities to hand this story off to someone else. Or collab with them. He also isn't raiding this game for 20 years. He fucks off constantlym. He hasn't written enough to be sick of it.
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I really don't understand how you look at the complete shit show the tv series turned into and not have that be enough motivation to finish it and finish it in a way that is satisfying to fans and your vision as the author. He really must be lost.
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Malakriss
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Satisfying to fans and finishing according to his vision may not be the same thing. The show ending put a spotlight on that and if the shitty writing was anything close to his intentions he has to be feeling slighted himself.
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Aldarion
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I wonder if maybe hes just as uninterested in writing it as I am in reading it.
I always wanted to see the ending, but once I saw it, it ended any interest I had in reading a slightly maybe better version of it.
Chukzombi
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its been ten years since the last book, nobody has said "lol this sux" to him in a long time and by allowing season 8 GoT be the ending of his story, it means he was just fine with that ending or he doesnt have an ending at all planned. just kill everyone til one remains through attrition. if it was me, i would be super pissed off at what HBO did to my masterpiece and would have churned out a new book by the end of the year. its been 2 years since season 8 and no set date for his next to last book comes out. he doesnt care.
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BrutulTM
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Maybe the tv show was exactly how he was planning on ending it so now he's shitting his pants trying to write an ending where Jon and Dany live happily ever after ruling the world and making beautiful babies together.
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Cybsled
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Right. While the "ending" ideas were GRRM, the show writers took a lot of liberties in filling in the blanks. If written well, you could still make those ending ideas work, although since people "know" what is going to happen, you'd have to mix things up a lot in order to not make things super predictable.