This gif tells me I wouldn't want anyone else planning a weddingHard to believe this guy is responsible for the planning of the red wedding:
That's why Jaime's speech to Catelyn in Season 2 completely turned me around on the character. His whole talk about "honor" and what it really meant, even to guys like Ned, was fucking awesome. Sure, some of it was just him being snide and trying to rustle jimmies, but it was all true.For being regarded as noble and honorable, the northerners had a camp full of betrayal and treasons. Theon betraying Robb, Cat releasing Jaime, Rob marrying Talisa, Karstark killing the Lannister children and finally Roose being part of the wedding massacre.
I don't think it's hard to interpret that as Jon trying to save her life. If she shoots another wildling and Jon loses the fight(which he must've suspected he would, not knowing wolves would intervene) then Igrit is going down with him.I didn't really get Johns tossing of the chick aside... She was standing by his side even after he wouldn't kill the guy (but he killed his other brother up north...but not this guy? Was this really the best place to turn?) he knocked her over...then after seeing both his brothers wolves he up and left.
The better plan would have been for Ned not to tell Cersei that he knew about the incest, and Robert probably would not have died. Robert comes back from hunt, Ned tells him, Lannister's removed from power.The window to remove the Lannisters was the small one when Stannis, Renly and Robb all just declared and were still alive.
No one realized Stannis' hatred for Renly, Renly's puffed up self importance from Loras and Robb never really made it to the table and Stannis was too unbending to really manage much compromise anyways. So... it was really impossible or at least amazingly unlikely to work out due to the nature of the players involved.
Eddard really needed to step up and do something clever and get Stannis moving into position before Robert even died, but thinking people would respect the writ from the king he had, was too slow and everything went to shit.
Oh, and I recall Catelyn, in the show at least, trying to get Eddard to stay in Winterfell and not go to King's Landing.
It's been years since I read the books, but watching the show now it would be strange to think Jaime plotted all this. He's been captive and travelling with Brienne the whole time.Yeah I could see how non-book readers might think Jaime was more responsible for this than he was if Roose said Jaime sent his regards.
But would Ned have actually told Robert as long as the potential was there that he might do harm to the children? Ned would have tipped his hand to Cersei either way I think, in the interest of saving her children from Robert's wrath. And honestly as long as they were alive and Tywin was drawing breath, I wouldn't be willing to count House Lannister out. Not for a second.The better plan would have been for Ned not to tell Cersei that he knew about the incest, and Robert probably would not have died. Robert comes back from hunt, Ned tells him, Lannister's removed from power.
I'd say he was a little more than flamboyant. We can safely assume Renly would've called Joffrey's death the purple wedding.Do you think a hard nosed man who is so beholden to honor that he cut off his savior's fingertips holds a drunk and a flamboyant man in high regard?
Probably not, as far as we know he kept his cocksucking/buttfucking to one man at a time.I'd say he was a little more than flamboyant. We can safely assume Renly would've called Joffrey's death the purple wedding.