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in-fucking-deedWould like to read a story by Martin about that battle at the Tower of Joy almost as much as the battle at the Trident with Rhaegar.
in-fucking-deedWould like to read a story by Martin about that battle at the Tower of Joy almost as much as the battle at the Trident with Rhaegar.
The way they treat these swords in GoT seems insane... like when Jon gets captured by the Wildlings... none of them take his sword. Those swords are supposed to be more valuable than entire kingdoms, but all of them are just like "oooh boy with a fancy sword, bet he's got a small cock hurr hurr" and in that wiki article, it says Dawn remains at Starfall... how has some lord not just brought his army and killed everyone there and taken it? Seems like those swords and dragons are the only truly limited resource, in that nobody knows how to make more of either.You mean Dawn?
Dawn - A Wiki of Ice and Fire
Seems like in a more realistic setting you'd be terrified to ever actually use the thing because it might get lost. Like how the shardplate/blades are treated in Way of Kings. You need to use them for them to have value but need to be careful with them too...It's just a macguffin. You put these super-badass swords in characters hands and need them to have meaning and value. But you also want these characters to go through trouble, get captured etc.
Only Longclaw has really been treated casually, and I think it's safe to assume that no one wanted to take it after Mance warmed up to Jon. All the rest of the swords are pretty well contested / lusted after. Looking athttp://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Valyrian_steel, I don't remember too many examples of Valyrian weapons being treated casually. Dawn was returned because Ned was way too honorable to claim it after Dayne died.The way they treat these swords in GoT seems insane... like when Jon gets captured by the Wildlings... none of them take his sword. Those swords are supposed to be more valuable than entire kingdoms, but all of them are just like "oooh boy with a fancy sword, bet he's got a small cock hurr hurr" and in that wiki article, it says Dawn remains at Starfall... how has some lord not just brought his army and killed everyone there and taken it? Seems like those swords and dragons are the only truly limited resource, in that nobody knows how to make more of either.
Yeah the whole wrap up of Dawn was less about maintaining continuity of the sword with its owning house and more about giving one more reason to show Eddard as being honorable.Only Longclaw has really been treated casually, and I think it's safe to assume that no one wanted to take it after Mance warmed up to Jon. All the rest of the swords are pretty well contested / lusted after. Looking athttp://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Valyrian_steel, I don't remember too many examples of Valyrian weapons being treated casually. Dawn was returned because Ned was way too honorable to claim it after Dayne died.
I thought the valyrian steel blades were significantly lighter than a normal blade, while also being stronger and remaining razor sharp regardless of use.Am I wrong or are Valyrian steel weapons still just weapons? It's not like shardblades and shit where they're orders of magnitude more powerful than a normal weapon. You aren't going to be a better swordsman because your sword is Valyrian. They're not the sort of things to fight a war over, not for their physical value anyways.
As for the series starting out more fantasy and getting away from it, maybe if you only focus on the prologue of the first book and ignore the ensuing EVERYTHING ELSE THAT HAPPENS.
Well yeah, the materials are obviously special and so is the process to manufacture them. But as far as abilities, it is just a sword. A really sharp, light and strong sword. But just a sword, not shooting flaming fireballs or whatever.There has to be something special about them. No one knows how to create them, they're apparently impossibly sharp, and also thought to be one of the only useful weapons against the Others alongside dragonglass/obsidian.
I wonder how light they really are. If they're light enough to not get tired swinging them around, I could see how that'd garner you some folk tales about legendary strength/ability if you could just whip that fucker around willy-nilly.Well yeah, the materials are obviously special and so is the process to manufacture them. But as far as abilities, it is just a sword. A really sharp, light and strong sword. But just a sword, not shooting flaming fireballs or whatever.