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Grimmlokk_sl said:
There's a quote from GRRM somewhere at a signing or something where someone mentioned the Sansa/Lady thing and he commented. I can't find the exact quote, but it's basically someone implies that Sansa is no longer really a Stark since Lady died and GRRM sort of agreed. Can anyone find it please?
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I'm looking for it. Came upon a couple interesting links, this Reddit one in particular:[Spoilers all] Starks and their direwolves. Does this foreshadow Sansa's role in the future of Westeros? : asoiaf
 
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Grimmlokk_sl said:
There's a quote from GRRM somewhere at a signing or something where someone mentioned the Sansa/Lady thing and he commented. I can't find the exact quote, but it's basically someone implies that Sansa is no longer really a Stark since Lady died and GRRM sort of agreed. Can anyone find it please?
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This has been my theory since the first book.

At first it was more of a metaphorical change as she moved with the Lannisters, but as the books progressed it became more pronounced as something metaphysical and magical.

To me, anyways.
 
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Sansa doesn't need magic if she obtains Littlefinger levels of manipulation. If magic goes away, then she "wins".

And LS sucks because it might result in Pod, Brienne, or Jaime getting killed.
 
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Soygen_sl said:
From Eye's Gawker link:
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If you read the Q&A the author did, linked in this thread, it's not an announcement. She said she could see it going for eight books but it's not planned and it didn't come from George. She mentioned something about how there are seven books for seven kingdoms, and then said well technically there's eight kingdoms so I could see eight books.
 
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Whats up with no Nymeria in the show? Seems like every Arya chapter had her dream-warging, prowling the Riverlands at night with a massive pack of wolves devouring as they please.

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If you read the Q&A the author did, linked in this thread, it's not an announcement. She said she could see it going for eight books but it's not planned and it didn't come from George. She mentioned something about how there are seven books for seven kingdoms, and then said well technically there's eight kingdoms so I could see eight books.
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Whats the 8th Kingdom?
 
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Here is the actual reply:

I begin to wonder-though 7 is what we currently have under contract. I remember when he called me, years and years back, to confess that his little trilogy was.well.no longer a trilogy. He predicted four books. I said Seven Books for Seven Kingdoms. Then he said five books. I said Seven Books for Seven Kingdoms. Then he went to six. I said. Well, you get it. Finally, we were on the same page. Seven Books for Seven Kingdoms. Good. Only, as I recently learned while editing THE WORLD OF ICE AND FIRE (another awesome thing you must buy when it comes out!),there are really technically eight kingdoms, all having to do with who has annexed what when Aegon the Conqueror landed in Westeros.So, maybe eight books for Seven Kingdoms would be okay. Also, he has promised me that, when he finally wraps this great beast us, I can publish the five page letter outlining the bare bones of the "trilogy."
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I am not well versed enough in Westeros history to know what she's talking about there.
 
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ThisWesteros - Game of Thrones Wiki

Suggests the eighth kingdom might have been The Riverlands?

Ruled byHouse Tullyfrom the castle ofRiverrun. Bastards born in the Riverlands take the surname "Rivers". The principal ports of the Riverlands are Seagard, Saltpans and Maidenpool. Notable towns include Stoney Sept. The Riverlands are dominated by the mighty River Trident and its numerous tributaries, including the Tumblestone. The Riverlands, lying close to the center of the continent, have been the site for battles and conflicts throughout the history of Westeros. Once an independent kingdom, they were overrun by theironborna century before Aegon's invasion and are thus not counted as an eighth kingdom, despite their significant size and population. The Riverlands are, as their name suggests, one of the most fertile and populous regions in Westeros, which is in many ways the only reason they have been consistently able to recover from the frequent wars that cross their borders.
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Scratch_sl said:
Whats up with no Nymeria in the show? Seems like every Arya chapter had her dream-warging, prowling the Riverlands at night with a massive pack of wolves devouring as they please.



Whats the 8th Kingdom?
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They might not want to reveal yet that more than one Stark is a warg is my guess.
 
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I wonder if HBO is lighting a fire under R.Rs ass to get these fucking books done. Wasn't the last one like 6 yrs or something to write? Totally unacceptable!
 
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Iron Isles maybe? The Crownlands are technically large enough to be considered one but it was never a sovereign kingdom before Aegon. Kings Landing was a trading freehold for a hundred years before Aegon was born. Apparently the Targaryens had been on Dragonstone for a century or more before Aegon's conquest.

An eighth book shouldn't be surprising---but honestly it's not even necessary since GRRM has already been expanding the ASOIAF universe for years now. Half the shit we know about the other houses and Essos comes from the Dunk and Egg/Atlases/Compendiums that he's published and co-authored with others. He's collaborating with other authors on the comics, the show itself and those atlases and reading companions (which are huge and kinda expensive but stuffed with original canon). He could narrow the focus of the remaining books on Jon/Dany/Tyrion and shift all the ancillary shit to the expanded universe and the fans would lap it up. Sam's storyline in the Citadel.. the BWOB... Connington/Aegon all that shit could be its own novels anyway. You could get collect Arya's arc alone and end up with 1200-page book.
 
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