GoT - Is Over, Post Your Drogon Sightings

khalid

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pretty sure stannis is worse off freezing and starving in his camp than bolton who is all comfy with natural springs heating winterfell and some well laid stores of food. would not surpise me syannis dies, then mel sacs shireen to bring jon snow back to life.
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Except Stannis's camp isn't filled with people looking to betray him. Bolton is in a castle with a fuckload of Manderly's. Yeah, he is really secure!
 

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pretty sure stannis is worse off freezing and starving in his camp than bolton who is all comfy with natural springs heating winterfell and some well laid stores of food. lets also not forget winterfell's heavy fortifications. it would not surprise me stannis dies, then mel sacs shireen to bring jon snow back to life.
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Didn't the Bastard torch some of Winterfell? Or was that just in the books?
 

Chukzombi

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Didn't the Bastard torch some of Winterfell? Or was that just in the books?
pretty sure you cant torch stone, the wooden gates and doors and such yeah, but the stonework unless you bring siege weapons is gonna be just fine. im sure with bolton's army rebuilding all the wooden structures probably did not take too long and as for the manderlys. uh didnt they kill lthat fat dude and nobody did shit about it?
 

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Well look, there's definitely a reason to worry that LSH is gone. The show does such a tryhard job of establishing Petyr's lifelong obsession over Cat that it seemed like they were definitely setting up zombie Catelyn eating his face for sure.

LSH was there to wrap up Littlefinger's arc---which is actually the whole arc of the westerosi side of the novels---since Littlefinger started the whole thing. Everything from Robert's Rebellion, the fall of the Targaryens, the war of the five kings, all of it--Littlefingher hatched it about sixteen years before the start of Game of Thrones. It's basically all revenge porn hatched by poor nerdy little Petyr after getting gutted from groin to collarbone for challenging the bronzed superman Brandon Stark, Heir to Winterfell, to a duel to the death for Catelyn's vag.

So Littlefinger's father was a bro of Lord Hoster Tully's when they were both scared little pussies fighting against the Free Cities. This is important because the Baelish clan were Braavosi immigrants who have only been westerosi nobles for a generation. They still used the stone titan of Braavos as their house seal. (That stone titan is considered to be the "great stone beast" in Dany's vision in the house of the undying, which is a big clue). After surviving the ninepenny war, Hoster Tully fostered young Petyr Baelish at Riverrun, where poor sickly little Petyr fell hopelessly in love with Catelyn. Petyr reminisces fondly about his time studying and working with the maester at riverrun, reading all the books and working with the ravens and spending his free time with the Tully girls.

Now Catelyn was betrothed to Brandon Stark, because feudalism. But Petyr was a well-read young prodigy who practically lived in the maester's library/rookery (he would grow up to turn the entire economy of the seven kingdoms into profitability in four years) and as far as he knew, brave young underdogs are supposed to get the girl if they were brave and valorous and stepped up to unbeatable odds. So yeah, Brandon Stark guts him and was about to kill him when Catelyn steps in and gigglingly tells Brandon to "nevermind the boy". So there's our brave little geek roping his spleen back in while Catelyn is purring at her stud to grab her some lemoncakes and forget about silly little Petyr.

What's a heartbroken, lost, nearly-disembowelled boy-genius to do? Well first he spends months sucking down the castle's supply of milk of the poppy in the maester's chambers.... this is where Lysa sneaks in and deflowers herself on him. He's there at the maester's chamber recuperating from the lesson he teaches later Sansa about how realistic all the tales of chivalry are (not at all) when a raven arrives. The raven has news about Lyanna Stark---beloved sister of the buck stallion who nearly killed him and is prolly diddling the center of his universe---hanging out with Rhaegar Targaryen, probably out of her own free will. He could give the message to the maester just as it arrived.... or he could avenge himself and all sickly young nerds in the most awesome way imaginable.

Cut to twenty years later and zombie cat eats his face.
 

Chukzombi

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Read the fucking books.

cut the shit already, i have read the books, you know goddamn well i have, i dont remember every name and detail of what happens exactly since its been closing in on 2 years since i read them. so why not just tell me what i got wrong instead of being a salty cunt about it?
 

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so why not just tell me what i got wrong instead of being a salty cunt about it?
Sorry.

ADWD_sl said:
Four White Harbor knights had formed a ring around Lord Wyman, as Maester Medrick labored over him to staunch his bleeding. "First you must needs come through us, ser," said the eldest of them, a hard-faced greybeard whose bloodstained surcoat showed three silvery mermaids upon a violet field.

Martin, George R.R. (2011-07-12). A Dance with Dragons: A Song of Ice and Fire: Book Five (p. 677). Random House, Inc.. Kindle Edition.
After which, Ramsay sends out a force of combined Whiteharbor and Frey men. Manderly is definitely alive, just with a facial cut.
 

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Well there won't be an LSH one-off now. I doubt they'd True-Bloodify the show with Darth Sansa hatefucking anything, either. Sansa/LF will probably parallel Arya/Hound and end similarly.

Could be wrong, they've already True-Blooded the finale with magical squirrel people throwing flaming hadokens at shit... they may as well throw in goth sansa hatefucking a shapeshifting littlefinger while her resurrected tranny zombie mother watched.

If there's enough demand for magical flying superpowered duels on HBO after True Blood's last season, it's totally possible we could see that.
 

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I watched like 2 episodes of true blood then stopped because it sucks. I don't know if I can respect a man who watched it through to the finale.
 

khorum

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Yeah two episodes of True Blood is prolly enough to imagine what a high-fantasy GoT on HBO would look like if the folks who are perpetually QQing about giant dire wolves, magical squirrel people and mystical undead revenge queens get their way.

Definitely tops the hatefucking-to-dialogue ratio, though.
 

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Books and show both have a torched Winterfell. In fact, the intro for the TV show has been showing a burned out Winterfell since S3.
 

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Well look, there's definitely a reason to worry that LSH is gone. The show does such a tryhard job of establishing Petyr's lifelong obsession over Cat that it seemed like they were definitely setting up zombie Catelyn eating his face for sure.

LSH was there to wrap up Littlefinger's arc---which is actually the whole arc of the westerosi side of the novels---since Littlefinger started the whole thing. Everything from Robert's Rebellion, the fall of the Targaryens, the war of the five kings, all of it--Littlefingher hatched it about sixteen years before the start of Game of Thrones. It's basically all revenge porn hatched by poor nerdy little Petyr after getting gutted from groin to collarbone for challenging the bronzed superman Brandon Stark, Heir to Winterfell, to a duel to the death for Catelyn's vag.

So Littlefinger's father was a bro of Lord Hoster Tully's when they were both scared little pussies fighting against the Free Cities. This is important because the Baelish clan were Braavosi immigrants who have only been westerosi nobles for a generation. They still used the stone titan of Braavos as their house seal. (That stone titan is considered to be the "great stone beast" in Dany's vision in the house of the undying, which is a big clue). After surviving the ninepenny war, Hoster Tully fostered young Petyr Baelish at Riverrun, where poor sickly little Petyr fell hopelessly in love with Catelyn. Petyr reminisces fondly about his time studying and working with the maester at riverrun, reading all the books and working with the ravens and spending his free time with the Tully girls.

Now Catelyn was betrothed to Brandon Stark, because feudalism. But Petyr was a well-read young prodigy who practically lived in the maester's library/rookery (he would grow up to turn the entire economy of the seven kingdoms into profitability in four years) and as far as he knew, brave young underdogs are supposed to get the girl if they were brave and valorous and stepped up to unbeatable odds. So yeah, Brandon Stark guts him and was about to kill him when Catelyn steps in and gigglingly tells Brandon to "nevermind the boy". So there's our brave little geek roping his spleen back in while Catelyn is purring at her stud to grab her some lemoncakes and forget about silly little Petyr.

What's a heartbroken, lost, nearly-disembowelled boy-genius to do? Well first he spends months sucking down the castle's supply of milk of the poppy in the maester's chambers.... this is where Lysa sneaks in and deflowers herself on him. He's there at the maester's chamber recuperating from the lesson he teaches later Sansa about how realistic all the tales of chivalry are (not at all) when a raven arrives. The raven has news about Lyanna Stark---beloved sister of the buck stallion who nearly killed him and is prolly diddling the center of his universe---hanging out with Rhaegar Targaryen, probably out of her own free will. He could give the message to the maester just as it arrived.... or he could avenge himself and all sickly young nerds in the most awesome way imaginable.

Cut to twenty years later and zombie cat eats his face.
What? That last paragraph is some pretty fucking awful fan fiction.
 

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Why do they keep pretending a major POV book character resurrecting to significantly effect the story is just some side quest? Seems so consistent between the showmakers and her that Lady Stoneheart doesn't matter and no one wants to see it.
What makes her so minor compared to other characters, other major POV characters, that have played very little role in the grand scheme of things like Theon?

He could have just as easily been cut out of the show and had random Ironborn do his misdeeds for him while also saving on the need to cast Balon and his sister on top of that too given that the rest of the Ironborn characters seemed to have been cut as well.

Because in the long run she isn't going to accomplish shit and will have zero relevance, and the show-runners know that.
See above or, say, Arya.

Not that I'm arguing that they should have cut them, but that the excuse that minor irreverent characters should be cut because several are already in the show.

All this goes back to is how fatally fucked this show was after the firsts season when they knew they had a huge hit on their hands, demand for more of the show and chose to keep the bloody thing at 10 episodes per season.

It's left me thinking that this is something of a modern version of Ralph Bakshi's LOTR, a screwed up flawed take on immensely popular fantasy that'll be rectified a few decades down the line when it can finally be done properly when expectations, allowances and demand see eye to eye.
 

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I never would have guessed that this thread could get more lame than the no spoiler thread people debating about why Arya didn't kill the Hound.