Just because you didn't see it doesn't mean it didn't happen. What do you think that huge pile of Raven's messages Jon Snow was looking forlorn over before he was murdered were about?
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We actually did see it though, they showed him send a message out to the world's leaders and Stannis was the only one to take is seriously.
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Not to mention that the were allowed in after winter was in full swing. They might have been given good lands to farm, but they weren't going to grow shit on them for a long while. Could the Night's Watch have fully provisioned them over the winter? Probably not given that the Watch is supplied for hundreds and there were 5000 wildling refugees. They were going to have to turn to raiding just to survive. I'm sure many in the NW realized this, probably even Jon.
He did the right thing bringing them in, but it was set up to end badly either way. He was willing to deal with that likely outcome over adding their numbers to the threat to come. He just couldn't get enough of his brothers on board.
Unless someone objects, I think we can do away with the spoilers during the off-season? Anyone disagree? I think most people are just concerned about spoilering upcoming episodes during the season; i.e. screen caps and silly episode descriptions.
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Don't bother trying to explain it. The best possible motivation swagdaddy could accept is that they're just a bunch of lowlifes doing random shit because they're degenerates, not because their mortal fucking enemy that recently tried to kill them all, several times, is now being paraded past their defenses by a young new Lord Commander who used to fuck one of them and defied a king by giving a merciful death to the wildling general. Naaah, makes more sense they was just mean guys killing Snow because they was dumb lowlifes doing whatever for whatever random reason!
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If you think I was misusing suspension of disbelief, you're dumber than this argument. and this argument is really dumb.
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This is what happens when you anger the Old Gods with Lost derails ...
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But what if everyone in Westeros were whitewalkers the whole time after the mad king
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So hodj, just to be clear, even though this continues the derail, I ask that because you're not correct and I couldn't tell if you were doing it on purpose. The "purgatory" or whatever you want to call it was just an excuse for the writers to do the side flashes in the last season after already doing back and forward timelines previously. In that last episode Christian tells Jack that they all created this in between world because of how important the events on the island were.
Everything that happens on the island, through all the seasons, actually happens and then their purgatory world starts whenever they all die (or however deep you want to take this discussion into the timing of it) at which point they all have their awakening and move on to heaven or whatever.
It was really stupid and I'm not defending it whatsoever, but that is what happened. The whole show didn't take place in purgatory, just those flash scenes in the last season.
Everything that happens on the island, through all the seasons, actually happens and then their purgatory world starts whenever they all die (or however deep you want to take this discussion into the timing of it) at which point they all have their awakening and move on to heaven or whatever.
It was really stupid and I'm not defending it whatsoever, but that is what happened. The whole show didn't take place in purgatory, just those flash scenes in the last season.
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Were not continuing this derail, it is not wrong. Abrams and Lindeloff have been apologizing for that shit for going on six years now. I watched that series without missing a single episode, it was very clear. Theyve been trying to rewrite that shit from the moment that finale ended,mbecause it is embarassing and a clear bad mark on their careers. If you have a problem with it go dig up the Lost thread or make a new one to discuss it further.
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I'll assume your thoughts at least include:
And would love to hear your other observations and theories on what suspension of disbelief actually means, both to a writer/creator and the the viewer.
I'm being serious. Because right now it seems you think it means shit doesn't have to make sense if the genre is fantasy.
And I think it is important, because when a viewer tries to have intelligent discussion on a show, and then it seems they're a dumb fuck repeating literary shit they probably heard from other dumb fucks on a message board, it confirms my suspicion I shouldn't pay attention to what that dumb fuck is saying.
I think it could be an interesting discussion, though, your thoughts on suspension of disbelief and how it applies to a show like Game of Thrones.