GoT - Is Over, Post Your Drogon Sightings

I highly doubt Sapphiron will be making an appearance. The lore is set up to put dragons and white walkers at odds.

I didn't see shit and the notion begs the question, if you have an ice dragon at your disposal, why not use it?

Jon also thinks of ice dragons, something Old Nan told him about, in three separate occasions in ADWD. The lore for that is established as well.

However zero chance there was a dragon in that scene.

Well I don't remember that, but OK. That seems like it would make the wall pointless though (so would swimming zombies for that matter).

Royal_sl said:

I didn't see shit and the notion begs the question, if you have an ice dragon at your disposal, why not use it?

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I think they were...

These dragons don't breathe fire, they breathe that white fog shit that the walkers used right as the wildlings closed the gate. Don't know if it freezes you or blinds you or converts you or what, but that's what I'd believe they're doing. If they had super hidden shit like this that isn't in the books (yet) and teased them this discretely..I'd very much approve.

In the A Song of Ice and Fire novels, ice dragons are said to roam the Shivering Sea and the White Waste. They are said to be larger than the dragons of Valyria and made out of living ice, with pale blue crystal eyes, vast translucent wings and very cold breath - which can instantly freeze people and things solid, a mirror opposite of how the breath of regular dragons burn them. There is a constellation of stars to the north called the ice dragon, with blue eyes that point north.

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From:Ice dragons - Game of Thrones Wiki

Yeah, I think if they DID mean to include an ice dragon easter egg it would be slightly more prevalent than that. Just a bunch of pareidolia going on there I think.

GRRM has also written a children's book called The Ice Dragon that seems to be set in Planetos:The Ice Dragon - A Wiki of Ice and Fire - A Song of Ice and Fire Game of Thrones

Interesting though, in that story the fire dragons come from the North.

khalid_sl said:

The internet is so going to light on fire during the walk of shame. Listening to some GoT review shit today and many reviewers are still banging on about how horrible the sansa shit was and how they better not see any shit like it again. Welp...

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They did show the high septon doing the walk of shame, so at least there's precedent. I bet that's on the "previously on GoT" for that episode.

Xevy_sl said:

I think they were...

These dragons don't breathe fire, they breathe that white fog shit that the walkers used right as the wildlings closed the gate. Don't know if it freezes you or blinds you or converts you or what, but that's what I'd believe they're doing. If they had super hidden shit like this that isn't in the books (yet) and teased them this discretely..I'd very much approve.



From:Ice dragons - Game of Thrones Wiki

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They wouldn't have to breath anything at all to stomp, tail thrash, and wing buffet everything inside of that ramshackle fort.

Lenas_sl said:

You must have been asleep during every single scene that Maester Qyburn has been in. Nearly all of his scenes relate back to that giant lying on the table in his lab.

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Not really, no, there hasn't been a whole lot to catch. It hasn't been mentioned in awhile and even when it is, it is something very cryptic, they have never said what they are doing. Its like, people who have read the books pick up on all these subtle clues and then pat themselves on the back when they knew what was going to happen all along because they are like omg, you didn't see that coming with x, y, and z having happened, what are you, dumb?.

We had another bold prediction last week and it totally makes sense, but I would have never seen it coming. Maybe the person is just making a good prediction based on the clues we were given and history of the story, but if it comes to fruition I'll never believe that person didn't already know.

Well if you're thinking strategically as the Night King, you also wouldn't want to give away the existence of such a weapon to all the men on those boats. I still think it's unlikely though.

Abefroman_sl said:

Also has there ever been zombies that can swim? I can't think of a single movie that had zombies chase people in the water. Might be one of those laws of the zombie universe.

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There are several movies with zombies/undead that walk at the bottom of a body of water. Pirates of the Caribbean comes to mind, but, more canon, Romero's Land of the Dead. But I can think of at least one movie with a swimming zombie: Lucio Fulci's Zombi 2! In that 1979 classic there is a jaw dropping (even for non zombies) scene wherea shark attacks a zombie swimming under water! Well... seeing this scene I have to wonder if the zombie is really swimming... bah.



On the Cersei conundrum... my question is... who would want to free her / benefit from freeing her? The young King... but he is crying in his room. Jaime, but he is stuck in Dorne. Possibly Littlefinger if he thinks having her in his debt can be worth something (Lannister moto and all that), killing the sparrows seems also something he should do before being sent to one of these cells himself and freeing the Tyrells should also be worth some points. Maester Pycelle could also be interested in getting rid of the sparrows before landing in a cell, but I don't remember him being anything else than a slippery eel who manages to survive by keeping a low profile, so not really one to be the driving force behind drastic measures, and even if he was, I am not sure his first priority would be to have Cersei freed. When you are antagonistic with just about everyone, I guess people don't care much when you rot in a cell...

Letting the clear leader of the immediate opposition slip away when he was barely offshore isn't being very strategic.

Anyone found good Jorah/Thing Memes?

Royal_sl said:

Letting the clear leader of the immediate opposition slip away when he was barely offshore isn't being very strategic.

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There were only like 3 or 4 Night's Watch guys there in the middle of thousands of wildlings and there's no obvious way for the Night King to know that Jon was the Lord Commander. The fact that he had a weapon that could battle the Others would have been no surprise, the Watch has been defending against them for thousands of years. It's not like the NK keeps up on Westeros history and knows that the Watch is in shambles.

Royal_sl said:

Letting the clear leader of the immediate opposition slip away when he was barely offshore isn't being very strategic.

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That's not really related to exposing the alleged ice dragons. If he could just walk his zombies underwater around the wall, why would they build a wall? And why aren't the white walkers a part of the lore of other continents? Methinks they have some limits.

They can't physically pass the wall can they? Isn't that in the books somewhere?

Gilgamel_sl said:

They did show the high septon doing the walk of shame, so at least there's precedent. I bet that's on the "previously on GoT" for that episode.

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Yeah, but Theon gets castrated and most reviewers made dick jokes. Same guy rapes Sansa, most horrible thing ever seen on tv and it should never have been shown.

SJW double-standards are real.

Royal_sl said:

They can't physically pass the wall can they? Isn't that in the books somewhere?

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Yeah, wasn't there some magical property that only allowed the Night Watch through but somehow Cold Hands could also do it? Or was that just that specific passageway?