i gave up trying to be fake italian and just use prego, i don't have time for tomato reduction!, plus prego has a 2 year shelf life, easy to keep a few 16oz jars in the pantry.
i also just received a 12k grit whetstone, is it needed? no it's not imo, i mean it does put that much of a finer edge on my knives, i was able to de-gourd a watermelon with just a chefs knife. (usually i'd reach for the cleaver for a bit of weight) it was really like slicing butter.
i mean i would keep it in my sharpening repertoire just b/c.
btw if anyone wants a cheap/sharp out of the box knife for 8bucks theres this brand
Amazon.com: Deba-Style Flexible Thai Knife (#171), Kiwi: Kitchen Utility Knives: Kitchen Dining
some thailand brand knife, it's really sharp from the factory (i was only able to make it a bit sharper imo, but the edge they give you is really good).
my wife likes it b/c it's super light, hell there's almost zero weight to this thing, and thin, thin to the extent that my point was bent, had to reshape it.
i've been buying various knives off amazon just to see which knives are good for family/friends. everyone wants a sharp knife but no one wants to go through care and maintenance.
i mean they all have horror stories, knives just thrown in a drawer, thrown in the dish washer, cutting a pear on a ceramic plate, making that clang/clang (i had already corrected the pearing knife the night before)
i'm thinking i could just give them this knife, it'll be the sharpest factory knife they'll get.
i mean of course, shuns come just as factory sharp, but a gyuto/chef knife shun is 10x the price. (and actually more work for me since it's vg10 steel)