Gravy's Cooking Thread

mkopec

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If you mean just the wraps, then yes, your estimate is correct.
You are right, WTF was I thinking. /boggle

anyways I lost a ton of weight. I would eat a protein bar at lunch then eat 2-3 flour wrapped fajitas for dinner. I ended up losing about 60 lbs over 12 weeks of the competition.
 

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Do you have a dehydrator, Soy? We dehydrate apples, mostly, and they keep well, and fill the gap, taste good, and are, I think, low in calories. Jerky works, too, as just a little gets you through - get salmon jerky if you can find it. yum. Or do something like a little peanut butter on a banana or apple slice. Or, a perpetual favourite here is carrots and hummus or popcorn.
do you put cinnemon and seasonings on your cuts or just straight to dehydrator? do you also give fruits a lemon bath to stop the browning or just straight up cut and dehydrate?

i just do straight cut and dehydrate everything, seems to work fine for snacks.
 

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I would peg your wraps closer to ~300 calories depending on amount of oil, type/amount of cheese, and amount of chicken. Veggies are largely inconsequential unless you're eating a lot. Doesn't hurt to track them though if you you're working towards things like fiber and vitamins.

Protein bar 200-250. Depending on what breakfast was(and activity), you're still at a sizable deficit.
 

mkopec

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No breakfast exept for a coffee. Also the last 2 days of the competition I did not eat a thing. And the last 24hrs I did not even drink anything at all. It was hard as fuck but thank god I did it since we calculated that I won by 1.6lbs

A few weekends I would cheat by drinking and having some pizza.
 

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do you put cinnemon and seasonings on your cuts or just straight to dehydrator? do you also give fruits a lemon bath to stop the browning or just straight up cut and dehydrate?

i just do straight cut and dehydrate everything, seems to work fine for snacks.
I do typically give the fruit a lemon juice bath - watered down lemon juice in a big ziploc and shake that shit up. Periodically I'll add cinnamon or something if the kids ask, but that's it. I wouldn't even do the lemon juice step, but if they get even a little brown, my kids eat it a lot less.
 

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I love dehydrating food, but I just use the Alton Brown method. Big box fan+furnace filters+food safe trays+bungee cords.
 

mkopec

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I have one of those dehydrators. I got it way back in the 90s off some infomercial thing on TV. Maybe used it a few times. It came in handy when I grew my weed back in the 90s though.

I made a few jerky with it and dried some fruit, but meh, whatever.
 

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I have been considering getting a dehydrator for a while now, I love beef jerky and I love salmon so it stands to reason that I would love salmon jerky. Plus I would just like to have the option.
 

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I have been considering getting a dehydrator for a while now, I love beef jerky and I love salmon so it stands to reason that I would love salmon jerky. Plus I would just like to have the option.
I hear the fat content of certain salmon filets can make the jerky spoil quicker. Keep an eye on that.
 

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I have been considering getting a dehydrator for a while now, I love beef jerky and I love salmon so it stands to reason that I would love salmon jerky. Plus I would just like to have the option.
I really encourage people to do the box fan thing. Total investment is really minimal. Easily one of the best AB ideas.
 

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Reading up on that now, it seems like eventually the cost of the filters would outweigh the cost of the dehydrator. Unless you are just reusing the filters over and over, which doesn't seem sanitary.
 

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Reading up on that now, it seems like eventually the cost of the filters would outweigh the cost of the dehydrator. Unless you are just reusing the filters over and over, which doesn't seem sanitary.
I bought some NSF certified dehydrator trays and use those between the filters. No food actually touches the filters, so yeah, I just use them over and over. I tried just the trays but there was slippage and parts of the drying got uneven. They still look brand new. I mean a "good" food dehydrator runs you like $250. A box fan is useful on its own for other things but runs like $20 if you don't have one. I got my filters for like $15 total and trays were $20. I already had bungee cords. That is a pretty dramatic price difference, especially considering the box fan is actually better at drying the food.
 

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I've been telling myself I was going to do that box fan thing for years now but have never gotten around to it. I think the jerky you get at the store is crap. I don't like the Jack Links spongy stuff. It's more like a flat hot dog than jerky and most of it is way too sweet IMO. When I eat jerky I want my teeth to get a workout. Jerky made from ground meat sucks too, especially since most people dry it out until it's meat cardboard. I likeMingua Beef Jerkybut I don't order it much because it's too expensive ($12 for a 7 oz bag plus $10 shipping no matter how much you buy) but if I could figure out how to make jerky like that from venison I would get more excited about shooting a deer in the fall.

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this is the alton brown box fan dehydrator btw.


the dehydrator i linked is 50bucks so it's price comparable imo.

yea the excalibur dehydrators are 200ish and nice, but they're big hunkers. However if you're a hunter or a gardener or just have access to lots of readily available stuff to dehydrate, it would be more worthwhile to invest in an excalibur than your basic 50-80$ (or 120$ infomercial) food dehydrator.

heres the link to the excaliburs
Amazon.com: excalibur dehydrator: Appliances

the fan position is better in that it's horizontal and air pass over the food (much like air passing over an airwing) rather than just trying to be forced through.

this allows even drying time.

with the ones that have fans on the top or bottom, the trays closer to the fan will of course dry out faster, so you'll have to rotate trays once or twice, not so if the fan is horizontal.
 

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I bought some NSF certified dehydrator trays and use those between the filters. No food actually touches the filters, so yeah, I just use them over and over. I tried just the trays but there was slippage and parts of the drying got uneven. They still look brand new. I mean a "good" food dehydrator runs you like $250. A box fan is useful on its own for other things but runs like $20 if you don't have one. I got my filters for like $15 total and trays were $20. I already had bungee cords. That is a pretty dramatic price difference, especially considering the box fan is actually better at drying the food.
Where did you get your trays? I may try this in the next week or so. I really want to make jerky, badly.
 

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I think one of the most important parts of this discussion is that the Alton way of air dehydration vs the Commercial way of Heat dehydration is that Commercial dehydrators actually cook the product in the process of dehydrating it. Which may or may not be desirable for the item you're looking to dehydrate.

For meats the cooking may be favorable, but for fruits and dehydrated crackers and the like, probably not.
 

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Maybe beef would work without heat, think dried carpaccio, but I wouldn't with pork or poultry, and I'm not sure about wild game either.
 

Lanx

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i think the "con" with using heat to dry stuff is that you get that "sheen". you know that thin almost plasticy film right on top of the food. i think i heard ppl think this prevents faster drying.

i don't see it, the biggest difference to me is the slice of the cut (thickness). thats why if you can't slice evenly, use a mandolin.
 

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Where did you get your trays? I may try this in the next week or so. I really want to make jerky, badly.
Amazon.

@Vitality: All commercial dehydrators have this issue and cooking the food is basically never desirable. Which is another reason I prefer the box fan. Not sure what you'd ever worry about it. If you're making cured meat, and if you're drying it out that is what you're making, the salt, acid, and near complete removal of water will kill everything.