Gravy's Cooking Thread

Fogel · Feb 7, 2024

Commercial rating has more to do with how often its used, not so much with how well it performs. For example a residential microwave may get used once a day where as the ones we use in our cafeteria probably gets used 50-100 times a day. Both work the same, one just has more duty cycles before it dies.

Lanx · Feb 7, 2024

all these tangine talk reminded me that i actually wanted one

cooked a morrocan, whatever chicken a few days ago, chicken came out super fall off the bone.

but i wanted it to see if it'd cook long stews better than the crockpot, so i'm testing it out w/ curry (jap) now

Lanx · Feb 8, 2024

Lanx said:
all these tangine talk reminded me that i actually wanted one

cooked a morrocan, whatever chicken a few days ago, chicken came out super fall off the bone.

but i wanted it to see if it'd cook long stews better than the crockpot, so i'm testing it out w/ curry (jap) now

so yea, the curry did come out great, better than my crockpot? maybe

think i'll test it out w/ this etouffee recipe soon

mkopec · Feb 8, 2024

Palum said:
No that's what I want, but good. I've seen some restaurant suppliers ones that are $700. Just not sure at all about that world or the brands or if it's a gimmick.

The problem with anything you plug into a wall socket is its is limited to 1600w-1800w which is just not enough. (Good ole weak ass US 120v) You want the 220V version where its more like 3500w. THEN you will have the control you are looking for. I mean these wall plug devices work, sure, but just not good enough based on my experience. But then youre talking about adding 220v plugs to your kitchen or whatever, which can get pricey as well.
Back when I worked for restaurants in my youth we used to keep our grills at 350F to do burgers, chicken, etc and all of them used gas... And im sure the above will get you there too. The problem is you stick anything on it it will drop temp down to 270-300F and then it will take another 15 min to get back to 350F where it needs to stay. So depending on the meat, the size, and how cold it is, youre basically boiling it. Same problem I have with my fryer. Stick some frozen fries in there the temp DROPS and it takes a while to recover. This is why I fry all my shit 2x or even 3x to get that crispy result.

They have an outside version of this that uses propane which would be more of my jam. I forget the name, brickman? or some shit?

Palum · Feb 8, 2024

mkopec said:
The problem with anything you plug into a wall socket is its is limited to 1600w-1800w which is just not enough. (Good ole weak ass US 120v) You want the 220V version where its more like 3500w. THEN you will have the control you are looking for. I mean these wall plug devices work, sure, but just not good enough based on my experience. But then youre talking about adding 220v plugs to your kitchen or whatever, which can get pricey as well.
Back when I worked for restaurants in my youth we used to keep our grills at 350F to do burgers, chicken, etc... And im sure the above will get you there too. The problem is you stick anything on it it will drop temp down to 270-300F and then it will take another 15 min to get back to 350F where it needs to stay. So depending on the meat, the size, and how cold it is, youre basically boiling it.

They have an outside version of this that uses propane which would be more of my jam. I forget the name, brickman? or some shit?

I agree but outdoor is not ideal for me. 15a is a limit for now but it's more I just want a better version of the shitty $50 griddle. I hate my glass top range. This one seems to have a thick plate so I'm thinking it will do better.

mkopec · Feb 8, 2024

YEah I know. Especially when you live in a climate that changes all the fucking time, outdoor is not practical. You could also try the oven and a pizza steel as well. They sell this in a variety of sizes and you might thave more control that way? IDK, never tried but seems feasible.

Dr.Retarded · Feb 8, 2024

Lanx said:
so yea, the curry did come out great, better than my crockpot? maybe

think i'll test it out w/ this etouffee recipe soon

That's a pretty fucked up etouffe recipe. Normally doesn't have cheese or cream. I can see a splash of cream at the end just to kind of round the sauce out but the cheese is not traditional at all.

Clove is another thing it typically don't see. If you want a real one, let me know. I'll screenshot one of my true blue restaurant cookbooks.

Lanx · Feb 8, 2024

Dr.Retarded said:
That's a pretty fucked up etouffe recipe. Normally doesn't have cheese or cream. I can see a splash of cream at the end just to kind of round the sauce out but the cheese is not traditional at all.

Clove is another thing it typically don't see. If you want a real one, let me know. I'll screenshot one of my true blue restaurant cookbooks.

it comes from a cajun chain called yats

i had it a few times, they closed in my area, so i'd have to goto nashville if i wanted it, haven't had cajun besides them so thats my reference

popsicledeath · Feb 8, 2024

Some thoughts on griddling.

Electric cook tops suck, but yes manageable with babysitting and flipping in rotations. Electric countertop griddles also suck. Even electric "commercial" griddle/grills suck. A lot of research and experience and nope, don't bother imo if the goal is high heat meat and things like pancakes that imo benefit from similar high and fast cooking.

Cast iron doesn't help as it has great heat retention which is why they're great in the oven or over fire that dispersed heat better. Both my cast iron griddles will warp in the electric stovetop. My large single burner comal is oversized, and doesn't warp, but with a thermal gun the outside area will be like 175 degrees colder than the center, so back to flipping in rotation.

Induction is ideal for consistency and great with cast iron. Frying my temps barely lower. I seer meat fine on the electric burner with the 12 inch all clad, but the induction burner is the better tool.

For stovetop griddle cooking in particular I've been looking at induction ranges. The griddle burner areas are great. My annoyance is I want a larger main burner so haven't pulled the trigger yet.

A shitty dual burner countertop induction burner is going to be better than even a nice electric cook top. So that might be a good place to start. I got a shitty $40 induction burner and it's great and still used any time I'm frying and sold me on an induction range/cooktop, especially because of affordability compared to getting gas lines installed.

Lanx · Feb 8, 2024

This was a great tip i picked up if you want to smoke a whole brisket on a 18in without cutting

Stick a piece of your smoking wood underneath and lay it between the two handles

obviously it shrank a lot, but when it was raw, the two ends were touch the metal handles on the grates.

Lanx · Feb 9, 2024

Lanx said:
This was a great tip i picked up if you want to smoke a whole brisket on a 18in without cutting

Stick a piece of your smoking wood underneath and lay it between the two handles
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obviously it shrank a lot, but when it was raw, the two ends were touch the metal handles on the grates.

also the tiptop temp worked well, along w/ the mini brick firebox i built, it kept temp over night didn't have to check on it. (i have bluetooth probes)

idk if was the charcoal tho, academy ran out of the bb rolls i was using that

Dr.Retarded introduced me to, so i just picked up a bag of lump.

Hekotat · Feb 9, 2024

Is a rice cooker worth buying if you have an instapot? I was looking at some at H Mart but I have no idea what I'm looking for and they are freaking expensive. Mainly wondering if they are easier to clean.

Aldarion · Feb 9, 2024

Hekotat said:
Is a rice cooker worth buying if you have an instapot? I was looking at some at H Mart but I have no idea what I'm looking for and they are freaking expensive. Mainly wondering if they are easier to clean.

Absolutely not, instapot rice is textbook perfect, but I do look forward to the rants your post will inspire

Hekotat · Feb 9, 2024

Aldarion said:
Absolutely not, instapot rice is textbook perfect, but I do look forward to the rants your post will inspire

lol, I used it all the time for rice and it's perfect. I was just curious if it was worth picking up.

Lanx · Feb 9, 2024

Hekotat said:
lol, I used it all the time for rice and it's perfect. I was just curious if it was worth picking up.

do you believe that a rice cooker will elevate your rice?

if youre wondering if you can have as good as takeout rice, then your rice cooking is shit, get a rice cooker

if youre wondering if you can have as good as sit down restaurant rice? then your rice cooking is ok, it can get better by either getting better rice and/or a rice cooker

i do not know korean rice cookers, i have never used one, my korean friends have, thats what they grew up w/, i grew up w/ japanese rice cookers and manual stovetop.

i've tried this one, and it works fine, i'm sure i rated it a 7 or 8 at making rice

TIGER JBV-A10U 5.5-Cup (Uncooked) Micom Rice Cooker with Food Steamer Basket, White

was it what i wanted? no, i wanted a 9, so in order to get that, i got another zojirushi (ive been using a 30yr old one)

i'm sure the korean ones are fine, i do not know them, they most likely also bang out cute tunes too

Aldarion · Feb 9, 2024

Lanx said:
if youre wondering if you can have as good as takeout rice

if youre wondering if you can have as good as sit down restaurant rice?

BrutulTM · Feb 9, 2024

I had some instant pot rice just the other day and it was quite lumpy and gummy. The person who made it did say that that's not typical though.

Hekotat · Feb 9, 2024

Lanx said:
do you believe that a rice cooker will elevate your rice?

if youre wondering if you can have as good as takeout rice, then your rice cooking is shit, get a rice cooker

if youre wondering if you can have as good as sit down restaurant rice? then your rice cooking is ok, it can get better by either getting better rice and/or a rice cooker

i do not know korean rice cookers, i have never used one, my korean friends have, thats what they grew up w/, i grew up w/ japanese rice cookers and manual stovetop.

i've tried this one, and it works fine, i'm sure i rated it a 7 or 8 at making rice

TIGER JBV-A10U 5.5-Cup (Uncooked) Micom Rice Cooker with Food Steamer Basket, White

was it what i wanted? no, i wanted a 9, so in order to get that, i got another zojirushi (ive been using a 30yr old one)

i'm sure the korean ones are fine, i do not know them, they most likely also bang out cute tunes too

My rice comes out great in the InstaPot, I have no complaints. I also use a high quality rice from H Mart that really made the difference once I started experimenting with why it wasn't coming out well. I was more just curious about post cleanup, I hate having to let the InstaPot soak to get the rice paste that is left behind off easily. Not a huge deal, I'd rather just have 2 kitchen gadgets taking up counterspace anyways but I'd make an exception if it was super easy cleanup.

ToeMissile · Feb 9, 2024

Lanx said:
do you believe that a rice cooker will elevate your rice?

if youre wondering if you can have as good as takeout rice, then your rice cooking is shit, get a rice cooker

if youre wondering if you can have as good as sit down restaurant rice? then your rice cooking is ok, it can get better by either getting better rice and/or a rice cooker

i do not know korean rice cookers, i have never used one, my korean friends have, thats what they grew up w/, i grew up w/ japanese rice cookers and manual stovetop.

i've tried this one, and it works fine, i'm sure i rated it a 7 or 8 at making rice

TIGER JBV-A10U 5.5-Cup (Uncooked) Micom Rice Cooker with Food Steamer Basket, White

was it what i wanted? no, i wanted a 9, so in order to get that, i got another zojirushi (ive been using a 30yr old one)

i'm sure the korean ones are fine, i do not know them, they most likely also bang out cute tunes too

We have a korean one. The rest of my wife's family have the same brand but different models. No complaints except I speak/read korean for shit. We have an instapot as well and the cleanup is much easier.

Lanx · Feb 9, 2024

Hekotat said:
My rice comes out great in the InstaPot, I have no complaints. I also use a high quality rice from H Mart that really made the difference once I started experimenting with why it wasn't coming out well. I was more just curious about post cleanup, I hate having to let the InstaPot soak to get the rice paste that is left behind off easily. Not a huge deal, I'd rather just have 2 kitchen gadgets taking up counterspace anyways but I'd make an exception if it was super easy cleanup.

cleanup and upkeep on a zoji is the easiest since it's pfoa, take the bowl and just wipe clean w/ a sponge, the top lid needs cleaning "when it looks dirty" and that takes a few seconds as well, beyond emptying the little water condesor youre already used to on an instantpot

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