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Zodiac

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Electromancer_sl said:
Most people I know who have guns have a couple that are untraceable.
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What does that even mean? Unless you live in one of the few states that require you to register your handguns all of your firearms are "untraceable". There is no national database of gun owners.
 
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1. It's not backpedaling if it's your stance from the start. If I failed to adequately to bold, underline, italicize, or color coordinate my posts for easy reading and separation of lines of thought. I apologize and promise to do so for you from here on out.

2. As I pointed out to Chaos, the hypocrisy argument was restrained to a limited frame which I've previously carved out. Refer to point one.

3.You're absolutely right that it is extremely stupid to believe that not having a dog in a fight makes you a hypocrite as it is not always the case. Your example of Sandy aid is also wholly different beast. Refer to point two.

4.I've read the article, watched the interview, and heard it ad nausea over air. As previously stated multiple times, I entered the argument expressly to:
argue from particular POV (the NRA's interpretation of Obama's comments prior to Jan 1) and to throw my hat in the pot that it is grossly negligent and irresponsible of Obama or our Legislators to write/press for gun laws that most are ill-educated to even discuss intelligently - especially so when they ignore or do not allow informed/knowledgeable individuals to participate in the discussion.
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So say I accept this explanation. My question, then, is WHY would you make such an argument ? It adds nothing to this conversation. You're pretty much saying the NRA is wrong, and Obama isn't a hypocrite, BUT if the NRA is right (even though they're wrong) then Obama IS a hypocrite ! ookkk. What's the point of this ?
 
Tuco

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chaos_sl said:
Not difficult. And 3d printers are pretty much there as far as making a weapon, and out of plastic at that.
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They're not there yet.
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Arbiter

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Mikhail Bakunin_sl said:
I wonder how difficult it would be to machine gun parts in a garage.
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As a side-note, a recent upsurge in sales is reloading equipment, but I'm sure industrious people will begin to make gun parts more easily available now that we see this shit is just not going to end with certain presidents, even after 1994.

Some things require great amounts of skill and specialized equipment though, like chrome-lined barrels, ect.
 
Cybsled

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Read that the NRA is defending it's ad, by stating they meant the school has it's own security and they weren't referencing the Secret Service. That could be the case, but the derps they are targetting wont make that distinction.
 
Zodiac

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These guys pretty much have the specs for printed mags done. Currently the feed lips are cracking after about 100-200 rounds but on hisblogthey say with a few tweaks it could be good to go.

 
khalid

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Even if 3d printers aren't able to make barrels/etc they still can make alot of things that could be banned, making those bans much harder to enforce. For example, I would imagine making the outsides of high-capacity magazines would be fairly trivial, leaving only the user to make a metal spring, something that should be relatively cheaply.
 
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Like I said the tech isn't to the point where you can buy a $2000 printer, $100 worth of plastic, download a cad file and in a day have a fully automatic rifle. But it is approaching that point.
 
Arbiter

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Tuco_sl said:
Like I said the tech isn't to the point where you can buy a $2000 printer, $100 worth of plastic, download a cad file and in a day have a fully automatic rifle. But it is approaching that point.
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I would assume such things would be useful if you didn't plan on walking back from what it was you was making those things for in the first place, which then begs the question,.... when are we going to see homemade guns like this start committing crimes? Word will get around quickly about the ease of use and construction of said items.
 
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khalid_sl said:
Even if 3d printers aren't able to make barrels/etc they still can make alot of things that could be banned, making those bans much harder to enforce. For example, I would imagine making the outsides of high-capacity magazines would be fairly trivial, leaving only the user to make a metal spring, something that should be relatively cheaply.
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Well, polymer magazines from manufacturers are steel impregnated, hence why they don't break off at the feed lip with repeated use.
 
Gavinmad

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Arbiter_sl said:
I would assume such things would be useful if you didn't plan on walking back from what it was you was making those things for in the first place, when then begs the question,.... when are we going to see homemade guns like this start committing crimes? Word will get around quickly about the ease of use and construction of said items.
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I dunno, it wouldn't exactly be wide-spread, and once you have an outbreak of crimes committed with plastic guns, I doubt it would take that long to track down people who have bought 3d printers in the area.
 
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