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Tuco

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If there's a massive number of homemade plastic guns running around shooting people I'm guessing we'll begin to have bullet control instead of gun control

 

Gavinmad

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If there's a massive number of homemade plastic guns running around shooting people I'm guessing we'll begin to have bullet control instead of gun control
Haven't you ever seen Most Wanted? We'll just start making bullets out of ice.
 

Arbiter

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I dunno, it wouldn't exactly be wide-spread, and once you have an outbreak of crimes committed with plastic guns, I doubt it would take that long to track down people who have bought 3d printers in the area.
Well I don't know who will be tracking anything on this. Point noted of course, but being able to quickly make a gun to go bank robbing would be quite tempting for people, and lucrative.
 

Tuco

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Well I don't know who will be tracking anything on this. Point noted of course, but being able to quickly make a gun to go bank robbing would be quite tempting for people, and lucrative.
The barrier to robbing banks isn't ownership of a firearm.
 

hodj

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I wonder how difficult it would be to machine gun parts in a garage.
The entire Waziristan region in Pakistan is flush with home made gun manufactories where kids as young as ten hand mill and build near perfect replicas of mass produced firearms.

Shit's so easy a 10 year old can do it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isXRyKZ_IiU

http://articles.cnn.com/2010-01-26/w...ns?_s=PM:WORLD

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2...g-in-pakistan/

Its like the old school apprenticeship programs back in the middle ages, but for modern firearms.
 

Ignatius

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Building your own gun really isnt THAT difficult.

http://www.northeastshooters.com/vbu...sunami-warning!

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Now, granted he did buy a parts kit for a lot of it, but he built what the government considers to be the actual "gun" himself.

Shovel AK ftw!
 

fanaskin

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http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygree...gun-magazines/

Yeah 3d printers really make this gun control thing look like a waste of time, you can make any size clip if you really want to.
essentially it's just a grooved container with a spring in it pushing a plate.

favorite qoute from article:
"Every one of those measures is a nonsense and worse: unworkable combinations of authoritarianism, censorship, and wishful thinking. "
 

fanaskin

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Do you disagree that you should never let a crisis go to waste?
Yes I don't think you should push politics(most people seem to be rejecting the need for this attempted legislation) on masses of unrelated people by manipulating them in an elevated emotional state, and acting with a heavy handed nature and seeing what laws they can get away with.

counter question,

Do you agree or disagree that the media should be allowed to use maximum exploitation of the event for their personal gain? it's essentially the same premise.
 

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I think giving the ATF the ability to police firearms sales would do more than any bullshit bans.
 
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I was reading about how to make gun powder here.

http://www.wikihow.com/Make-Gunpowder


It doesn't look all that hard to make. The ingredients can be bought without any sort of restriction at gardening stores and such.

It probably wouldn't be as high quality as factory made gun powder but I don't think it would stop people from making bullets. Restricting bullets probably wouldn't do a whole lot when people have equipment to reload the shells.


Although I have no idea how difficult it would be to reload a shell without the equipment, or if other legal / non restricted equipment could be modified to perform the same function.
 

Tuco

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Reloading a bullet requires very little equipment and expertise.


It'd be virtually impossible to have bullet control.
 

Zombie Thorne_sl

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I reload about 20k rounds a year, you do not want someone with very little expertise doing it. Good way to have no more gun or hands. It takes knowledge and specialized equipment.
 
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I reload about 20k rounds a year, you do not want someone with very little expertise doing it. Good way to have no more gun or hands. It takes knowledge and specialized equipment.
The thing is, it only takes a few people with specialized knowledge to make the equipment/tools necessary for reloading using means that would be hard to restrict.

I imagine it would be very hard to legally track people with the knowledge to make the equipment.

All the parts don't even have to be made in the same place or even by the same people.