Big Phoenix
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Gun control
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Kreugen
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Maybe when the bullet hit the back of his skull he had some time to doubt his methods.
Loser Araysar
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So now we are calling someone a "hero" for sending them into a country that we invaded under false pretenses, to kill people who were defending their homeland and that have never done us any harm?
Kreugen
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Point to where I said it never works out in the favor of the Good Guy With A Gun. Statistics and reality, however, show that its the lesser case.
Also, yet again "reserve police officer" aka not just some scared citizen who took a 30 minute training course then stuck the gun in their closet to collect rust.
Loser Araysar
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You would piss your pants and throw up at the first sight of blood, faggot. You are the biggest pussy on this board and that says a lot.
I'm sure he knew a lot about PTSD. He obviously also knew a lot about guns. But whatever he knew, or what he thought he knew, that knowledge failed him in this case. That's the problem with guns. You have to respect them. Let your guard down even once and that mistake is irreversible.
Kreugen
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Uh, most of those people were "defending" jack and shit. They were fighting a civil war for power that would have turned into all out genocide if we weren't there. Much of the insurgency weren't even Iraqis. And I'm not saying we shouldn't have just let them do exactly that, but the body count likely would have been a hell of a lot higher if we had just toppled Hussein and left.
Now, I still think labeling every person who ever served in the military or police or fire or whatever a 'hero' is a bit much. But on the flip side, there are people who fucking RAGE about the mere idea of a "murderer" like him being called a hero, no matter what selfless acts he may have performed. And I say fuck those idiots.
Soldier's don't get to pick their war. They can't all be Great Wars of Liberation celebrated with holidays and songs.
Gavinmad
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Kreugen
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You're the one apparently arguing that handing a gun to someone with mental health issues is a great idea. I think even the NRA would hold up their hands and say "WHOA now, lets not get carried away..."
Loser Araysar
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You mean the Civil War that started when we invaded their country under false pretenses an overthrew the government?
Hero, my ass. Simo Hayha was a hero.
The NRA walked back their past support of background checks so I'm not sure how committed they are to screening for mental health issues other than to use it as a point of fear. Who qualifies as mentally unsuitable for a gun, or for anything for that matter?
Kreugen
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I hope you ride a bike with wooden wheels to work. Otherwise you might sound like a hypocrite.
Fadaar
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This is the only reason I even got my trust made. The CLEO of the county I'm in will not sign off on any Class III transfers, so I'm shit out of luck unless I move. I'm in the military and the only law violations I've had in my life have been a speeding ticket and an accident I got in that was my fault, with the ticket being about 6 years ago and the accident about 10. The fact that some counties have officials that absolutely refuse to sign anything for anyone is ridiculous and just petty. It's not skirting the law, it's circumventing the bullshit factor. You still have to wait 6+ months for the ATF paperwork to be approved before you get your goods anyway.
Cybsled
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This. I remember my grandfather telling me stories about stuff that he and other Marine buddies did after they got home from the war. Everything turned out OK so to speak, but they were extremely reckless and were doing lots of shit that was illegal, but the "heroes" thing basically gave them a get out of jail free card (literally). But we probably overlook murders, people drinking themselves to death, people doing reckless things that got them killed...probably because even back then people overlook stuff. Hell, coroners today in certain states will rule deaths "accidental" instead of "suicide" just for the family's sake, even if evidence points to the latter being the more likely manner of death.
There really was no help for soldiers back then from a mental health perspective, though.
Just to pretty much echo a lot that hodj said. It's pretty common for vets to get together and go shooting for pretty much all the reasons he mentioned. My group is about a dozen-twenty strong, picking up new dudes as we find them and we hit the range about once a month. After the range we always go back to a buddies shop, clean guns and crack into some beers. It's pretty much just a way to unwind around those who shared some the things you did, who understand the things you've been through/are going through and a way to reconnect with that aspect of your life.
Fadaar
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I have a trust made already
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Primarily for class 3 or anything that goes on a form 4 and requires a tax stamp. Short Barreled Rifles and Suppressors mainly.
Tuco
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Please point me to where anyone has said in this thread that if you have a gun nobody can shoot you. Because that's the stance that Kreugen chose to argue against.