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khalid

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I think a magazine size restriction would be a damn good place to start. It's not a perfect solution, but every time you force someone who's under stress to have to fiddle with their weapon in order to keep killing, that's an opportunity for the situation to end somehow.
So you are starting off with something that would only effect an almost statistically insignificant thing (mass shootings), even further restricting THAT by making it mass shootings that involve rifles, and doing something that would only effect even that marginally?

Again, if you want to start working on lowering homicides, that is pretty much the last place you should start. Yet this is your "damn good place to start"? Really?
 

Loser Araysar

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So your assertion is that someone woke up one day, found out booze and/or drugs were illegal, and said "you know, I had no interest in these substances before, but FUCK YEAH I WANT TO BREAK THE LAW TODAY!"
Not quite like that but yes. The allure of the forbidden is a major contributor to the increased demand
 

Duppin_sl

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So you are starting off with something that would only effect an almost statistically insignificant thing (mass shootings), and doing something that would only effect it marginally?
Even though I deny both of those assertions, my response is "damn straight".

Because the cost to society is zero.
 

Loser Araysar

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Hey duppin, how much crime is statistically committed by Semiautomatic rifles with 30 round magazines?
 

Duppin_sl

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Not quite like that but yes. The allure of the forbidden is a major contributor to the increased demand
But people's desire not to break the law and go to jail has zero negative effect on demand, right?

Fuck, can you tag in one of your buddies or something? You're really bad at this.
 

Loser Araysar

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Even though I deny both of those assertions, my response is "damn straight".

Because the cost to society is zero.
I didn't realize that the price of 10% of the Bill of Rights was "zero"
 

Jais

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I deployed three times as an 0311 in the Marine Corps. I think I have a pretty clear understanding of what ends engagements. You seem to think that the only time to stop a threat is when they're reloading.
 

Loser Araysar

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But people's desire not to break the law and go to jail has zero negative effect on demand, right?

Fuck, can you tag in one of your buddies or something? You're really bad at this.
Have you seen our prison population these days? Do you know what constitutes the majority of it?

By the way, when some European countries actually decriminalized drugs, the usage and fatalities actually started to go down
 

Jais

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"...but every time you force someone who's under stress to have to fiddle with their weapon in order to keep killing, that's an opportunity for the situation to end somehow."

You're right, you said pretty much nothing. "...to end somehow."
 

Duppin_sl

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You're right, you said pretty much nothing. "...to end somehow."
It could end a variety of ways. Cops showing up and taking the guy out. Someone grabbing the gun away from them. Nutjob finally realizing "hey, what I'm doing is pretty fucked up and I'm dead anyway, might as well eat a bullet now". Even possibly (oh my god, shock, Duppin positing a positive usage of a gun!) a civilian showing up with a gun and taking a shot.

If you're so experienced in how engagements can be ended, why do I have to explain the possible scenarios to you?
 

Duppin_sl

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Do you want the one where the 1st covers the internet or radio too?
Sure. Make sure you send the second one to the FCC, so they stop any restrictions on broadcasting.

(Incase you're not following, the point I'm making is that every single enumerated right in the Bill of Rights has SOME restrictions on it, because that is required for us to operate as a society. Any restriction should be examined carefully, but the pro-gun position seems to be that ANY restriction on the Second Amendment [but not the militia clause, that's icky and we don't like talking about that] is tantamount to eliminating it entirely)