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Loser Araysar

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So if your answer is that any restriction on gun owners at all is stupid, why should I even bother engaging you? What makes you worth debating with?
Your inability to conceive a solution outside of hamfisted and arbitrary bans on types of guns or magazine sizes doesn't mean that there isn't a solution, or that there is no debate
 

Duppin_sl

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Your inability to conceive a solution outside of hamfisted and arbitrary bans on types of guns or magazine sizes doesn't mean that there isn't a solution, or that there is no debate
If you're not willing to consider any restrictions on guns, ammo, or magazines, what is left to restrict? Sights? Slings?
 

Loser Araysar

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Duppin, how do you feel about 1 round magazine sizes?
 
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If you're not willing to consider any restrictions on guns, ammo, or magazines, what is left to restrict? Sights? Slings?
duppin, you're clearly not a stupid person. you need to switch perspectives for a moment, consider a waterfall effect stemming from X causing violence & unfortunately being carried out with firearms. Are the inanimate objects to blame, or X?
 

khalid

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If you're not willing to consider any restrictions on guns, ammo, or magazines, what is left to restrict? Sights? Slings?
Why are you considering these restrictions? What are you trying to stop?

If it is homicides, there are all kinds of other things to consider. Stopping the war on drugs. Working on income inequality. Enforcing current gun laws. Working to get rid of gangs and the gang culture in inner cities. Immigration reform that makes it easier for immigrants to become legal citizens so they aren't sitting in legal limbo, afraid to talk to the police.

All kinds of solutions, but all you want are ones that take away the rights of law-abiding gun owners.
 

Loser Araysar

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If you're not willing to consider any restrictions on guns, ammo, or magazines, what is left to restrict? Sights? Slings?
Once again, note how myopic and narrow your view is. You can't conceive of any solution except ban, ban, ban.

How well are drug bans working for the drug war? How well did the prohibition work? (And those 2 aren't even protected by the bill of rights)

Give it another try, think outside of the box
 

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One-Point Slings are the slings prefered for combat engagements...

As to your edit from above Duppin, everyone is being aggressive toward you cause of the reasons I stated previously. You came in calling all of "us" pussies and equated us to goverment fearing rednecks who sit in a chair with a black rifle across our laps as we face the door, fearing Obama Stormtroopers.
 

Duppin_sl

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As to your edit from above Duppin, everyone is being aggressive toward you cause of the reasons I stated previously. You came in calling all of "us" pussies and equated us to goverment fearing rednecks who sit in a chair with a black rifle across our laps as we face the door, fearing Obama Stormtroopers.
That's a pretty accurate description of your average NRA member. Bully for you if you're the exception.
 

Duppin_sl

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Are the inanimate objects to blame, or X?
When the inanimate objects in question vastly increase a person's ability to inflict harm on others, it's stupid not to look and see whether there's ways to reduce that risk to society.

Otherwise, you're left waiting for some dreamworld where people stop finding reasons to harm each other. It's why I'm ignoring the shit about the drug war and gangs that Khalid keeps spouting. People have found reasons to inflict violence on each other throughout all of recorded history. Getting rid of two of them isn't suddenly going to make violence disappear.
 

Loser Araysar

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But getting rid of guns will make violence go away? Violence existed before the AR-15 and 30 rd mags

You dumb, duppin
 

Duppin_sl

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But getting rid of guns will make violence go away? Violence existed before the AR-15 and 30 rd mags

You dumb, duppin
Are you really trying to pretend that one person's ability to quickly inflict harm on others hasn't scaled massively in the modern world?

I'm not the dumb one, if so.
 

khalid

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Otherwise, you're left waiting for some dreamworld where people stop finding reasons to harm each other. It's why I'm ignoring the shit about the drug war and gangs that Khalid keeps spouting. People have found reasons to inflict violence on each other throughout all of recorded history. Getting rid of two of them isn't suddenly going to make violence disappear.
It won't get rid of violence, it will dramatically reduce it. Yet you aren't even interested in discussing them, because it doesn't involve banning. God, you really are narrow-minded. As Araysar said, open your mind and think a little outside your banbox.
 

khalid

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Are you really trying to pretend that one person's ability to quickly inflict harm on others hasn't scaled massively in the modern world?
Yet violence has continued to decrease as the world has gotten more modern and guns have increased in lethality. Which essentially disproves your point.
 

Loser Araysar

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Are you really trying to pretend that despite all the advances in gun technology that gun violence is not at a 50 year low in US?
 
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When the inanimate objects in question vastly increase a person's ability to inflict harm on others, it's stupid not to look and see whether there's ways to reduce that risk to society.

Otherwise, you're left waiting for some dreamworld where people stop finding reasons to harm each other. It's why I'm ignoring the shit about the drug war and gangs that Khalid keeps spouting. People have found reasons to inflict violence on each other throughout all of recorded history. Getting rid of two of them isn't suddenly going to make violence disappear.
I'm with you to an extent. But let's backtrack okay? If we were to let's say cut GUN related violence in NY, DC, LA, and CHI by 50% for the next 10 years, just those four cities - suddenly the US would rival Belarus and Barbados, and fall to the 11th for annual gun related violence...

Also note, the gun violence stemming from just those four cities comes from on majority illegally purchased weapons.