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FDA doesn't directly regulate operations, but they can regulate the types of devices that are used during them. For example, if a patient has a joint replacement, a surgeon could theoretically use a prosthesis (the metal part that replaces the knee joint) that wasn't FDA approved.
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Chris
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This happened to me and it accelerated towards the point where I had to lie on the floor to get blood back to my brain. I just thought I had weird diarrhoea from something I ate, not shitting out my half digested blood.
I had 1/10th of whatever value they were testing for, needed 10 pints of blood and was in hospital for a week.
They stuck cameras down both ends and ultrasound for the middle and they found nothing except fatty liver. They gave me an IV of some drug that must have healed whatever it was.
Kithani
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So you’re.. mad that your labs are normal and you don’t have a health condition, or that a doctor won’t dope you up to Olympic levels of hormones at age 42? I promise you can find a shady NP clinic to pump you up if you really want to…
Khane
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OU Ariakas
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Bro, he just wants to have so much T coursing through his veins that he has a raging boner 24/7 and no body hair at all. Is that too much to ask?
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Borzak
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My niece works in the imaging department at a hospital and they are back to wearing mask for nurses and workers and who knows who else. She never said Covid just that they are getting a lot of flu stuff coming in. I guess now mask prevent flu. It's like it didn't do shit the first time let's try it again.
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Khane
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Seems like people can't help themselves but be disingenuous when responding even in this forum section.
My labs came back "normal" the same way they would be "normal" at 950 or 250. The range is confusing and aggravating and information is all over the place.
What is "normal" is to wonder if there is something you can actually address when you feel sluggish, lethargic and start losing motivation and ambition, as a middle aged man. Especially if the decline is noticeable and you were/are active and athletic. It's also normal to expect better information and a more reasonable range of expected healthy values from healthcare professionals and providers regarding things like Testosterone levels, without having to worry about conflicting information depending on who you are talking to.
But sure, I'm "mad" that my labs came back "normal" and I just want to be able to rip apart a phone book like The Hulk.
*whoooooooooosh*
My labs came back "normal" the same way they would be "normal" at 950 or 250. The range is confusing and aggravating and information is all over the place.
What is "normal" is to wonder if there is something you can actually address when you feel sluggish, lethargic and start losing motivation and ambition, as a middle aged man. Especially if the decline is noticeable and you were/are active and athletic. It's also normal to expect better information and a more reasonable range of expected healthy values from healthcare professionals and providers regarding things like Testosterone levels, without having to worry about conflicting information depending on who you are talking to.
But sure, I'm "mad" that my labs came back "normal" and I just want to be able to rip apart a phone book like The Hulk.
*whoooooooooosh*
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Khane is asking for more granularity in the obscene range. I wouldn't expect retards on FOH to understand that though.
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I understand what you're saying
Khane
- in that the range is so vast that how the fuck are you supposed to get an accurate idea of whether you have enough or not enough. At 38, my T levels according to google should be 352 to 478. Then, right below that, another website says 450 to 600. Then, below that - another one says "acceptable" ranges for T levels in males my age are between 265 and 923. Fucking.. do what?... What kind of fucking range is this. Im just pointing out the absurdity of it all because it all just seems to be based on some random fuck wad doctors opinion.
Not directed at anyone in particular - but I highly insist that you guys at least take a couple rounds of Test. If it makes you feel better, keep doing it. If you dont like it, stop. If you stop after a round or two and feel awful, you need to wake the fuck up and realize that you're just rebounding to your "normal" levels and that the extra Test was making you feel better. It is literally a life changing adjustment. The changes Ive made in my life are directly tied to Test and without bragging, those changes are incredible for my age.
Khane
- in that the range is so vast that how the fuck are you supposed to get an accurate idea of whether you have enough or not enough. At 38, my T levels according to google should be 352 to 478. Then, right below that, another website says 450 to 600. Then, below that - another one says "acceptable" ranges for T levels in males my age are between 265 and 923. Fucking.. do what?... What kind of fucking range is this. Im just pointing out the absurdity of it all because it all just seems to be based on some random fuck wad doctors opinion. Not directed at anyone in particular - but I highly insist that you guys at least take a couple rounds of Test. If it makes you feel better, keep doing it. If you dont like it, stop. If you stop after a round or two and feel awful, you need to wake the fuck up and realize that you're just rebounding to your "normal" levels and that the extra Test was making you feel better. It is literally a life changing adjustment. The changes Ive made in my life are directly tied to Test and without bragging, those changes are incredible for my age.
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You’re getting crap because you’re basically complaining about being in your 40s but not feeling like you did in your 20s and blaming it on the normal range spread for a lab value.
Particularly funny IMO because your labs were literally smack dab in the middle of the normal range and not even toward one extreme or the other.
Again I guarantee you can find an NP pill mill to boost your T and see how you feel
Khane
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I addressed literally everything you are saying in the original post you quoted but obviously couldn't be bothered to actually read.
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Aside from how dumb your argument is, let me ask you this.
How much sense does it make that women can go to the doctor and get female hormones for literally any reason ranging from irregular periods to fucking acne, and men have to go a "pill mill."
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I got the double tap cameras also and they do a pill cam you swallow that looks at your small bowel. One of the things they asked was about black stool ie digested blood which I never had, mine was a very small bleed over a very long time, yours sounds like an acute issue if you were diarrhea shitting out half digested blood. Its surprising that they didn't find anything if you were bleeding that much, those cameras can find microscopic tears.
FYI just from the discussion in this thread about too wide to be useful ranges, hemoglobin is measured in grams/deciliter, and normal is 13.5-17 for adult men. Less that that is anemia which ranges:
- Mild: Hemoglobin 10.0 g/dL to lower limit of normal
- Moderate: Hemoglobin 8.0 to 10.0 g/dL
- Severe: Hemoglobin 6.5 to 7.9 g/dL
- Life-threatening: Hemoglobin less than 6.5 g/dL
Mine was 4. Iron was 0 (normal is 100-300)
Oh and for heart attacks, they look at troponin levels which normal is 0-0.4ng/ml. You pretty much should never have any tropinin in your blood it's only released when heart muscle is damaged/dying. Mine was 30k. Pretty easy to diagnose.
Kithani
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Agreed it’s a fair point although I’m also skeptical of postmenopausal HRT as well and not a huge fan of hormonal BC compared to an IUD.
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Chris
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Yeah it happened over a weekend I think.
I got the duality of the NHS, amazing free acute care, then slow follow up with poor communication.
I think it was iron they measured, was 10 when they wanted 100. Didn't mention haemoglobin as far as I can remember.
Need to get tested for anemia for sure.
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Amazing free acute care?? Friend sat in a nhs hospital for 3 days with appendicitis waiting for a surgeon to be available , lucky it didn’t burst before then. Altho maybe it did burst, who knows, you have to be halfway in the grave before they do a CT there, complete opposite problem from what we have here. You Brits with your keep calm and carry on attitude won’t work here, her case woulda been an instant lawsuit in murica
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I think what
Khane
is looking for is not "normal" level, but optimal level. "Normal" level mean you aren't about to die. So case closed for the doctor. These are two different beast. They tend to determine "normal" level by sampling among "healthy" individual and they call that "normal". Which lead, for example, to problems with Vitamin D, they sampled people, and they called "normal" level stuff like 20ng/ml, because that was the norm, but that was veeery suboptimal, so they raised the "normal" level to 30 a few years ago (I'm talking about France, but I suspect it would be the same in the US), which is still suboptimal, but it's getting closer to something healthy. While optimal level seem to be at least 50 or 60, lots of studies show various improvement in health up to at least 50 or 60. Above 100 seem to be possibly too high, resulting in trouble with calcium absorption.
So while "normal" level are usualy said to 30 to 150, "optimal" is probably 60, which very very few people reach.
Another example would be daily requirement, Iodine for instance is listed at a 150 microgram per day for an adult, but in Japan they tend to take 10 times that much (which lead in some rare instances in trouble, but in Japan some people take up to 1000 times the daily requirement... ). Iodine is very important for a lot of shit, and while 150 microgram will be enough to not die and avoid a goiter, it's suboptimal, and you probably should take a least 2 or 3 times that much to get an "optimal" amount.
Much of the "normal" stuff is determined by an average of people who have been quite frankly, seriously abnormals in the last 70 years, so the optimal might not always be the mean of the "normal".
Sorry no idea at all about testosterone though ! But it got me curious and I guess I'll test it next time I do a bloodwork.
Khane
is looking for is not "normal" level, but optimal level. "Normal" level mean you aren't about to die. So case closed for the doctor. These are two different beast. They tend to determine "normal" level by sampling among "healthy" individual and they call that "normal". Which lead, for example, to problems with Vitamin D, they sampled people, and they called "normal" level stuff like 20ng/ml, because that was the norm, but that was veeery suboptimal, so they raised the "normal" level to 30 a few years ago (I'm talking about France, but I suspect it would be the same in the US), which is still suboptimal, but it's getting closer to something healthy. While optimal level seem to be at least 50 or 60, lots of studies show various improvement in health up to at least 50 or 60. Above 100 seem to be possibly too high, resulting in trouble with calcium absorption. So while "normal" level are usualy said to 30 to 150, "optimal" is probably 60, which very very few people reach.
Another example would be daily requirement, Iodine for instance is listed at a 150 microgram per day for an adult, but in Japan they tend to take 10 times that much (which lead in some rare instances in trouble, but in Japan some people take up to 1000 times the daily requirement... ). Iodine is very important for a lot of shit, and while 150 microgram will be enough to not die and avoid a goiter, it's suboptimal, and you probably should take a least 2 or 3 times that much to get an "optimal" amount.
Much of the "normal" stuff is determined by an average of people who have been quite frankly, seriously abnormals in the last 70 years, so the optimal might not always be the mean of the "normal".
Sorry no idea at all about testosterone though ! But it got me curious and I guess I'll test it next time I do a bloodwork.
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