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Gavinmad

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Uh, they may be slow but they've pretty consistently nerfed (or over-nerfed) problem cards every time.

As well balanced as it would be, I don't see them nerfing challenger to legendary. How do you handle dust refunds for that? Cause you better believe I'd be taking the 3200 dust if it were an option.
 

yimmien

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I had the same thing happen as Gavin. Rank 1 is cursed. I ended up rank 3 from dailies this month mostly rolling for paladin ones, figured i was close so maybe i would finally grind it out. Rank 2 was irritating but as soon as i hit 1 i got like 5 games in a row where i drew shit and hero powered for the first 3 or 4 turns. Hope i make better choices this month.
 

TheBeagle

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The bright side to a new season is I can play goofy shit while ranking up, like velen combo priest. There's no feeling quite like smiting someone for 14.
That sounds fun, I'm bored to death with everything else, and I have a Velen. Link to a good list?
 

Gavinmad

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Lots of draw creatures, mass removal, 2x holy fire, 2x mind blast, velen, adjust rest of slots to taste. I'm currently running malygos on top of velen, since they both combo for 20 with double mind blast, although malygos requires all 3 cards be discounted. The deck is pretty awful it's just fun.
 

Vandyn

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To me Justicar is just as OP for control warrior as MC is for secret pally. If MC was a neutral he probably would be a legendary.
 

Famm

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Justicar is definitely a pain in the ass but its not dominating the meta on the same level as MC. I think the card is definitely crusing for a nerf, but how long will it take and what sort of nerf will it be? None of your business!
 

Gavinmad

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What's really broken about secret paladin is the fucking secret interactions. Just had avenge go off and save a dead minion twice in the same fucking match. It's fucking bullshit. The minion is at negative health, then avenge triggers and saves it.
 

Mures

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To me Justicar is just as OP for control warrior as MC is for secret pally. If MC was a neutral he probably would be a legendary.
Yeah, no. Not even close. If you have any minions on board as pally and drop mc turn 6 its probably gg. Even if you don't have any minions it can turn the board around and win you the game because it also thins your deck out dramatically for you to draw into tirion/boom. Turn 6 justicar for warrior does nothing honestly. Each turn you live past that, sure its nice, but justicar only helps stall, it doesn't really effect the board and it doesn't manipulate your deck.
 

Gavinmad

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fuckin rofl

playing control warrior against a tempo mage. He esportals a tundra rhino. one turn later i steal it with sylvanas and play a tomb spider. He concedes.
 

drtyrm

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The funniest defense of MC is the 'well you have to play a deck full of bad cards' to run MC. Bad cards like: Shielded Minibot, Muster, Truesilver Champion, Knife Juggler, Piloted Shredder, Dr. Boom ....
 

Gavinmad

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Yes, it's been all over the ladder since the last wing of LoE opened. A couple variations, usually a mix of kamikaze overload + mechs
 

littles

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Its great if you get doomhammer, or if you're me you play two games where both doomhammers are in the bottom 10 cards then you stop playing.
 

Gavinmad

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So I've been testing tomb spider in place of piloted shredder in combo druid and in place of acolyte of pain in control warrior. Works quite well in control warrior, in combo druid it's better than shredder against slow control decks like reno, but probably worse against more aggressive, so it comes down to personal preference.

Surprisingly good card. Ironically I think it's trash in hunter because they have too many shitty class beasts. Warrior's only beast is fierce monkey, Druid has raptor, savage combatant, and malorne. Don't think it would work outside of those two classes.
 

AngryGerbil

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Just put two Tomb Spiders in place of my Piloted Shredders in my double combo Druid as per you Gavin. Fun card. In my games so far I haven't really found myself missing the 4th attack of the Shredder all that much. In most cases it is hard removed so all that matters is the 3 Toughness. Got Malorne from it once, even played it, but it wasn't enough. Malorne is like the slowest card ever lol. Got Haunted Creepers several times and that was good for me in most cases. But caveat emptor, just got offered Core Hound, Parrot, and Webspinner. And although Webspinner isn't technically a terrible card, when you get one from a Tomb Spider it places the payoff card even further away and it just isn't clutch. And particularly not when it goes to your hand. I'm gonna keep playing with the Tomb Spider in my Druid for a while and get a feel for how well the proc actually pays out when compared to Shredder's bigger card pool, but instant free card. My gut tells me this isn't going to replace Shredder in the long run, but it is fun to play with and certainly is a worthy challenger for that 4-drop minion spot.
 

Gavinmad

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I'd say I get offered raptor or combatant over 50% of the time. Yeah you lose the rng sometimes, but it's more consistent than shredder imo.

Probably gonna craft paletress today. RNGSTONE!
 

Xequecal

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The funniest defense of MC is the 'well you have to play a deck full of bad cards' to run MC. Bad cards like: Shielded Minibot, Muster, Truesilver Champion, Knife Juggler, Piloted Shredder, Dr. Boom ....
Equality and Divine Favor are both much worse than MC. Both are undercosted by about three mana for their effects, and are the reason you have to play stupid face garbage if you want to beat Paladin, it's the only deck type that doesn't instantly lose to one or the other of these cards.
 

Gavinmad

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Divine Favor is a trash card and only shitty players are still running aggro secret. Midrange secret is vastly superior, especially in the new reno meta.

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Won a game earlier with druid because I took a stonetusk boar from a tomb spider. RNGSTONE!