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jooka

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I've been wondering if I'd just been having extreme shit luck. Guess not
 
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Valishar

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So, Ivory Knight. Looks cool, but is it actually any good? Two things I can most directly compare it to are Guardian of Kings and Grand Crusader.

Ivory Knight. Pros: Body + healing, extra resource that is pick best 1 of 3. Cons: Weak body for casting cost, paladin already has lots of healing

Guardian of Kings. Pros: Body + healing, decent body, no chance of getting a weak heal. Cons: Slow, underpowered card for cost, paladin already has lots of healing

Grand Crusader. Pros: Acceptable body for casting cost, extra resource, possibility of getting extremely high value card. Cons: Lack of discover means it's also possible to get extremely low value card.


I'm not convinced Ivory Knight is better than either of those two, and neither of them see play as it is.
I used it in a N'zoth list when it first came out, 20 games later I can tell you the card is okay. Certainly better than Azure Drake or Guardian or Crusader, it can just solidify a game hard if you get a third equality or a clutch blessing of kings. Heal a little, get a card, crash into their Azure Drake is pretty typical. It's just not really what the deck needed. It needs better early game, so the matchups are basically the same with or without it. If it was a control meta it would be pretty awesome.
 
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slippery

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Shit is supposedly fixed, I still get a 40g quest and reroll into a 40g quest. Fucking fuck
 
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Mures

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Argh....another game where I'm going to assume my opponent isn't connecting so it doesn't load me into the game and when I close hs and reopen it says "You were reconnected to your last game. Resuming...." and been like that for 10m now. No option to leave.
 
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slippery

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A few interesting cards this week.

Kindly Grandmother, Silvermoon Portal, Onyx Bishop, Swashburglar, Wicked Witchdoctor, Kara Kazham!, Pompous Thespian, Barnes, Moat Lurker, Arcane Giant

I wish the other Rogue card was this week too, I'd try shenanigans with it.
 
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Ravishing

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Looking forward to Barnes and Moat Lurker most. Not looking forward to Kindly Grandmother being in every Hunter deck.

Probably try out Arcane Giant in some Yogg decks... Not sure what to drop for it (in Druid).
 
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Deathwing

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Kindly Grandmother is slow but good value. Currently, hunter only exists in the meta because it can pressure fast warrior decks. So, I'm not so sure we'll see much of that card.

It could fit in some yogg/n'zoth hybrid though.
 
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Ravishing

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Kindly Grandmother is slow but good value. Currently, hunter only exists in the meta because it can pressure fast warrior decks. So, I'm not so sure we'll see much of that card.

It could fit in some yogg/n'zoth hybrid though.

2 mana isn't slow and if you mean because it's a 1/1 then won't matter. In fact it's a decent counter to Ghoul.
 
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Deathwing

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How's that a counter to ghoul? If I ghoul your kindly, it's essentially playing a 3/2 beast for 2 mana. Any other 2 drop played on turn 2 lives through the ghoul.

Also, how does a 1/1 on turn 2 not matter? That's horrible tempo, akin to skipping the turn unless your opponent played a 2/1 on turn 1 and can't deal with your drop.
 
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Ravishing

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How's that a counter to ghoul? If I ghoul your kindly, it's essentially playing a 3/2 beast for 2 mana. Any other 2 drop played on turn 2 lives through the ghoul.

Also, how does a 1/1 on turn 2 not matter? That's horrible tempo, akin to skipping the turn unless your opponent played a 2/1 on turn 1 and can't deal with your drop.

Stickyness has always been valued highly. It counters Ghoul because a 2 drop is killing your 3 drop.
 
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Deathwing

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Ok, I guess that was derpy on the ghoul.

I don't think sticky is automatically good. Twilight summoner failed to do anything and it has a very good stat ratio.
 
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Amzin

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Twilight Summoner is still good, it's just not good enough. It's also slow during the most important turns of the game right now. If aggro ever isn't dominating the meta again it might see play but there's plenty of good 4 drops.
 
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Delly

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Sticky for Hunter is the most important thing because there are quite a few cards that trigger with beasts are in play. Its not amazing but considering both cards are beasts its just good enough to make a lot of beast decks I think.
 
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Ravishing

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Most hunter decks will run it because it's stupidly good. 4/3 stats on 2 mana plus deathrattle plus beasts. If a stupid 1/2 spider makes it with only 1 part beast, this will definitely make it
 
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Il_Duce Lightning Lord Rule

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I could see moat lurker being used in that crusher/bog creeper shaman list for some annoying shenanigans with Sylvanas and ancestral spirit. I could also see Barnes being used in a spell shaman list with malygos. There were some lists that had malygos and I think emperor as the only minions in the deck, so you'd draw out malygos early and then nuke them down with cheap spells. I can see barnes doing something similar in a deck like that, maybe including hallazeal to survive long enough to unleash the fury of spells or something.
 
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Ravishing

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Only problem with Barnes is that he doesn't pull from hand, so it's a gamble if you draw him before drawing maly.

However I posted this priest deck a while ago which I still plan to try, has Velens as backup:

Yogg OTK Priest - Hearthstone Decks
Yogg OTK Priest
Purify and the Giants will be swapped out for something else most likely. Like Acolytes or more draw or some more clear/early game idk yet
 
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Mahes

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I am not understanding the Doomsayers. It is 2 targets Barnes can summon and all they have to do is 1 damage to prevent. Yogg is ok, but if summoned, his effect does not pop. Malygos and the profet are good. Sylvanis would be good as it would be a 1/1 that could steal.

I would be tempted to run Barnes in a paladin deck with the guy that shields 1/1's that come into play. Then use the legendary that makes legendaries whenever you inspire. I am sure I can find a couple more that would work with it.

A rogue deck could bounce Barnes.

I am curious how well the Map Legendary would work with Barnes. If you get the map early and put it in your deck, it would be aawesome to pull the guy that then converts your deck into legendaries.
 
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zzeris

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Yeah, Doomsayers are absolutely horrible with Barnes. 1/1 easy kill for zero bonus or they just let it go off if it benefits them. Barnes will be fun with lots of different ideas though.
 
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Il_Duce Lightning Lord Rule

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So, Barnes and purify might combine in an unusual way. I was playing vs the magic mirror in the adventure, and it summoned a 1/1 copy of an evil heckler. "Cool" I says, "1 earth shock coming up, this will kill it."

However! It didn't kill it, it silenced it, which made it a 5/4, then did one damage, which left a 5/3 on board. Very peculiar. Is that a bug? If so, they'll probably fix it since it might make purify not useless.
If it's a feature, you could stack some large minions in your deck, have Barnes summon them (come on RNGESUS!), then purify them to get a full-sized body.
 
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