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Lusiphur
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Pick a deck. Pilot it a fair bit until you understand all the interactions then start tweaking it (assuming ladder play here) to suit you. I am talking like 50 or more games. If you start chopping and changing an established deck list after a couple of losses then you are overreacting. Remember, a 50 pc win rate is pretty good in HS.
Arch
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Scavenging is a great card, and it can snowball really fast. However, silences are still in the meta right now so it's going to be a hit or miss card for you. It will snowball games and sometimes it will do nothing, there are more consistent cards for Hunter to use currently I would say. If you happen to be running a lot of silence targets in your deck it could certainly work.
Vaclav
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It could mean to hold them in your hand for next turn as well, you do realize, right? And if you're doing chain actions conceding doesn't take place until your current action queue has finished running. (Trust me, I've done the math on taking like 20 damage from a face hunter or bloodlust burst before and tried to instantly concede when I did the math - but still had to sit through until they hesitated)
Not sure how much of a pause is necessary for conceding to work - but flinging spells from your hand constantly doesn't seem like it would be a problem to keep it constant so that concede wouldn't take.
I assumed you understood that the "action queue" doesn't allow conceding while it's still got actions on it. (At least in any case that I've seen) Apparently, this was a false assumption. (Or I misunderstand why I can't concede while someone combos out lethal unless they hesitate a couple)
I guess your assumption is bad, it's got nothing to do with your opponent currently taking action and everything to do with whether they've already taken those actions and you are just experiencing the delay. If we are honestly examining this it's very unlikely you'd get your fireballs in before the priest conceded if he wanted to, he'd know what was going to happen when the first fireball was cast.
Vaclav
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I'd find it hard to believe that your guys theories are accurate considering I regularly ping the server with a sub-50ms ping. And literally one of the Bloodlust examples I had the window already up to concede because I knew if he played it I was done [it was a ridiculous draw for him and I drew into zero removal - like T1 Whirling, T2 Whirling, T3 Flametongue, T4 Shredder or something, T5 Bloodlust - with all my turns just throwing down taunters that slowed things down] and I hit concede immediately and it still was locked in game until after attacks processed.
Even non-lethal cases I've seen it happen too - a Paladin with a swarm of 1/1's out was taking me down to 2 that attack with no critters up and my only sweepers used up already so I tried to concede as he started the attack, and the concede only processed right before he was passing his turn.
Maybe there's some serious server side latency or something, but that's the only thing that would make that theorem accurate.
Even non-lethal cases I've seen it happen too - a Paladin with a swarm of 1/1's out was taking me down to 2 that attack with no critters up and my only sweepers used up already so I tried to concede as he started the attack, and the concede only processed right before he was passing his turn.
Maybe there's some serious server side latency or something, but that's the only thing that would make that theorem accurate.
Alex
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That's never happened to me Vaclav. If there's a pause in your opponent's actions and you concede within that time, your concede will happen before your opponent can finish their actions.
This is one of the few games that I enjoy watching other people play. The momentum swings in this game are so wild. Makes it fun to spectate.
Vaclav
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That's exactly what I'm saying Alex - is that when there isn't a pause in their actions you can't.
Valishar
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I seem to be having more luck with slightly off-stock decks than the complete netdeck lists. I wonder if it's because the non-legend meta is different, or if it's because you can surprise people. For example, have a handlock with Leeroy+Power Overwhelming instead of Jaraxus and a second earthen ring farseer. Probably a lot worse vs. Control Warrior, but it seems better vs. all the combo druid lists around because they don't play around the extra 10 damage you can inflict in a turn.
It is the surprise factor. Season 1 is the best example of this. Everyone was basically running Rag+BGH+Faceless. The rest of the deck almost didn't matter, it usually came down to who played Rag first. It'd get Faceless-ed then BGHed and if your opponent didn't have BGH, they lost. Strifecro destroyed everyone by running a combo deck with Cenarius. No BGH targets. One of the highest win rates ever over hundreds of games in legend rank, like 95%+ win rate.
If you watch a streamer get to rank 1 (or really any legend rank 10 or less) it is always with a deck that either they made or they got directly from another player and isn't yet being played widely enough for people to be know exactly what is in it. Xixo's sea giant Zoo last season, total surprise, no one was playing anything even close to it. He got #1 EU and NA with it. By the time he got to Asia, people knew about it and it was a much bigger struggle for him to rank up with it.