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The Ancient_sl

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Yeah but its a 6/4 tho and it has no death rattle.. There's so many better cards to put in that slot for turn 4, and you waste maybe 1-2 damage?

In Mid range imo it's better to have cards that work for you
Yeah, on it's own it doesn't look strong, but the way the meta shakes out itcouldsee play in aggro/tempo decks. It's also dragon type so that may add some additional value.
 

Column_sl

shitlord
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Well BGH can't deal with it which is the only thing that makes it kind of alright.

It's tough to see that far ahead until we see the rest of the cards. It could be obnoxious,who knows
 

Valishar

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I'm not sure I agree with the win more comment. Seems to me it will further agro as most people usually stabalize around 15 health and then start to come back as the agro decks run out of steam, but if they draw this on turns 3-6 you're looking at a behemoth of a minion to deal with if you don't have BGH.
If you're going to have your aggro deck curve all the way to 6 you're probably better with an Argent Commander than this thing due to the haste.
 

Mures

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Whats the deal with the abundance of stall decks going around? Played a 30 minute game as a face hunter the other night because a druid tree of lifed at 2 hp while I had a weak board, had 2 healbots, 2 healing touches and then concedes right as I'm dealing the lethal blow. You purposefully try to drag out 30 minute games, but you have to concede in that .5s before I kill you....ok. And now I'm seeing stupid ass stall mage more than I am mech mage. Why do ppl do this?
 

Sithro

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So, is Kel Thuzad just something that EVERYONE runs now? Because I've played like 3 or 4 matches today and have run into a lot of them lately. Son of a bitch.
 

Famm

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The druid deck sounds like a mill druid, was he running coldlight oracles and shit?

There's a lot of people running Kel'thuzad in shaman, ramp druids have used him frequently for a while now.

New cards look asstastic.
 

The Ancient_sl

shitlord
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I don't know that Nefarian is as bad as you guys are making it out to be. 2 spells is still a decent battle cry, there is high potential there. Plus once again, Dragon type.

Would he fit in any current deck? Probably nothing not called Druid.
 

Famm

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Well, there's a lot of really shitty spells. I guess people weren't sure on unstable portal because there are a lot of shitty minions. But on a nine mana 8/8 you need a really strong effect or it simply won't be played. Dragon synergy might help, but I'm wondering how many more cards that are going to synergize in great ways they could possibly have up their sleeves.
 

Angelwatch

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I think it's a pretty nifty battlecry. But it just comes so late that many times he'll be a dead card. Waiting until turn 9 to cast him and rarely being able to cast the spells you get in return can get you killed really easily.
 

Mures

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The druid deck sounds like a mill druid, was he running coldlight oracles and shit?
Yeah, played coldlight 3 or 4x w/ youthful brewmaster and a freezing trap, but he only managed to burn 1 card so I was still able to deal the ~100 points of damage to kill him.
 

Famm

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What rank? I've seen them a lot at low ranks but they disappear as you climb. I don't know why anyone plays it, it doesn't even look fun and really doesn't seem consistently winning either.
 

Gavinmad

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People have been running Kel'thuzad in stuff on and off since Naxx. Hell I even ran him in control warrior for awhile just a couple months ago.
 

Amzin

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The main problem with Nef is that yea, 9 for an 8/8 is just bad if you figure the spells are going to be only moderately helpful and delayed at that 95% of the time. If he was cheap enough to stand on his own, or follow up with a 2-3 mana spell, or if his battlecry reduced the cost of the spells by like 1-2, he'd be in much better shape and STILL would probably not be that good.

So far the expansion looks like a bunch of neat ideas very poorly balanced.
 

The Ancient_sl

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The main problem with Nef is that yea, 9 for an 8/8 is just bad if you figure the spells are going to be only moderately helpful and delayed at that 95% of the time. If he was cheap enough to stand on his own, or follow up with a 2-3 mana spell, or if his battlecry reduced the cost of the spells by like 1-2, he'd be in much better shape and STILL would probably not be that good.
I don't think he's over-costed, it's just that 9 mana is too high for most decks.
 

Mures

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What rank? I've seen them a lot at low ranks but they disappear as you climb. I don't know why anyone plays it, it doesn't even look fun and really doesn't seem consistently winning either.
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My tempo priest petered out around rank 6 as the whole meta seemed to shift towards tempo making early board control more difficult so at lunch I just started going the opposite route and made a greedy priest deck. 129 more wins to go.