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mures_sl said:
That was never my experience. Not sure why you would think patron warrior is favored over 60% against a deck that usually has no minions on board, or only minions 3 attack and over and has a ton of removal with plenty of time to draw into combo pieces. Also, the people who put together the power rankings at liquidhearth agree that oil rogue is favorable to patron and patron is unfavorable to oil rogue.
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Well obviously your rank 15 circle jerk is wrong because the meta snapshot says otherwise....

And that is a typo , it should read 50%.

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Strifecro was running Sunwalker in a Pally deck he was playing. I have had a lot of success with Midrange Hunter over Patron (over 80% this season, but smaller sample size, maybe 15-20 Warrior matches or so - all but 1 of those was Patron fwiw).
 
Gavinmad

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The real problem with oil rogue atm is not its favorable matchup with Patron, but the meta shift to include weapon hate because of Patron. Harrison and even Ooze are everywhere, and ironically weapon hate hurts oil rogue more than it does patron. Patron can soldier on after losing a death's bite, Oil rogue can have trouble recovering if you destroy the back half of an oil, or a full deadly, or worst case scenario an assassin's blade.
 
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Patron is just so fucking annoying to play against. I've tried rogue but maybe i just pilot it wrong. I'm just getting back into the game from a long break and holy fuck this meta is annoying.
 
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wow Medivh seems to be quite a bit stronger with his deck than Alleria in the new brawl unless you get a really good curve/get some good cards from LnL
 
Neki

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Maybe the meta will be shaken up a bit with the upcoming expansion release

Face decks will definitely be more weak and control will be much more strong

Patron warrior is still worrying though so maybe some kind of Chillmaw deck will be played to counter it

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Neki_sl said:
Maybe the meta will be shaken up a bit with the upcoming expansion release

Face decks will definitely be more weak and control will be much more strong

Patron warrior is still worrying though so maybe some kind of Chillmaw deck will be played to counter it
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That has never happened in the history of Hearthstone, quite the contrary. New cards just enforce the over powered metas
 
Gavinmad

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Patron would just execute chillmaw before putting patrons down. Playing chillmaw after they've comboed would be no different from any other board clear, and patron can recover from board clears just fine.
 
Neki

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The introduction of jousting would really weaken aggro decks but current meta doesn't really have aggro decks in high ranks as it is

I'm trying to think which current dominant decks just got stronger with the expansion. Control warrior with Wrynn? Freeze mage with Ronin?

I think mid range shaman got more strong and maybe some kind of druid Avianna deck will rise up.

Also note that I play more Arena than constructed and I think the jousting mechanic and the many RNG cards introduced makes Arena into an even more luck based game than it already was and that is very disappointing
 
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Neki_sl said:
The introduction of jousting would really weaken aggro decks but current meta doesn't really have aggro decks in high ranks as it is
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On a month old power ranking, Hybrid hunter is rank 2, Zoo is tied for 5/6, and Face hunter is tied for 7/8. And aggro paladin has undoubtedly moved up in the rankings in the last month. The only reason there isn't more aggro in the top ten is because of Patron. If Patron were gone, the top ten would probably be 7 or 8 aggro/aggressive midrange decks.
 
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its pretty stupid when the correct play is to frostbolt my own minions to prevent my opponent from having lethal since they are using MY minions as a resource.
 
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Sounds like Starving Buzzard and Hounds all over again.

To be fair, MCT, Sylvannas, and Flamestrike(maybe Consecrate?) are similar in that you are basically punished for playing more minions.
 
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