Ysera is 9 mana.
Harbinger has reasonable stats and a deck thinning effect. Your opponent isn't going to want to just let that minion sit there turn 8.
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Harbinger has reasonable stats and a deck thinning effect. Your opponent isn't going to want to just let that minion sit there turn 8.
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I knew someone would point that out lol. Yes Ysera is 9 mana, point is you're not going to load up your deck with so many high cost minions. I usually cap myself at 2 high cost minions so Ysera would be my other in this case. Keep in mind my post you quoted wasn't talking about Harbinger, it was regarding how many 10 drops I'd want. A 9 drop is basically a 10 since it takes your whole turn in most cases
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It thins your deck out. It's not that much different from just drawing a card. Guarantees you won't get a worthless topdeck later, and makes sure you can't get fucked by it being one of your last cards.
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This can't be true. I refuse to believe it.
Edit: if you use vanish and they have a full hand then they are killed, not burned, so the egg makes sense but not clear how you "burned" the murlocs
Amzin
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Yea overdraw is not the same as trying to return things to a full hand from the board. If it was already on the board, it just kills it. If you actually draw from the deck into a full hand, it is burned and not in the "graveyard" so to speak. 2 wildly different effects.
Edit: Stand corrected on the overdraw then, they do go to graveyard but don't trigger death effects
Edit: Stand corrected on the overdraw then, they do go to graveyard but don't trigger death effects
Famm
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I think the issue might be that HS doesn't actually have a "graveyard". Not that I expect it to be visible, they have to consider screen real estate, but this isn't the first time I've heard of an issue between minions being killed on the board not differentiating from other methods of the card being destroyed. I forget the other issue I read about but it would have also been rectified by an actual "graveyard" versus "pool of minions who no longer exist".
It isn't killed though, it's just moved to the graveyard (the stack in HS) directly. Overdraw doesn't trigger deathrattles but it also isn't exiled or moved to the opponent's hand or stack.
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Yeah, thats what I meant to say.
I understood the egg and kind of expected murk eye to come back for the same reason the egg popped, but it was unfortunate for me that cards that never entered play were considered killed.
Ah, gotcha mures. The real issue is that the HS team thought the Graveyard concept was too advanced so while there *is* one, it isn't explicitly referenced for cards like Resurrect or Anyfin or whatever. Cards that are in the stack are 'dead' by HS definition even if they've never been killed. Well, that and there is no Exiled status either to my knowledge so the distinction is kinda moot.
Famm
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Right so basically there ISN'T a graveyard, just the stack. The GY wouldn't have to be visible or accessible to players, just that there should be a different marker on cards that were "killed" versus just sent to the stack somehow.
I think Resurrect was the other example I was trying to think of but I don't remember the specifics I read about where someone had experienced a similar problem.
It wouldn't have to be advanced in terms of affecting the players, just that something should be coded into the game in this regard. There's no defensible excuse that the game allows milled murlocs to be summonable by anyfin. Other than that they are fucking hack frauds, which we know.
Does it really make a difference?
If they changed the text on Anyfin from "killed" to "destroyed" would you be okay with it?
If they changed the text on Anyfin from "killed" to "destroyed" would you be okay with it?
Famm
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No...do you really believe that was the spirit of the card, or more likely they never considered to balance for milling? The card's text should be consistent with what it causes the player to expect to happen. Surprises are "fun" when your shredder pops a Doomsayer. Surprises that fuck you because the card doesn't do what it literally SAYS are simply a big FU to the customer.
And this game is rife with mechanics and text that lack consistency. Its just sloppy design in a product that's raking in fucking money hats and its inexcusable.