Hearthstone
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GeneralF
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I got in beta sunday night and this game is just as fun as I'd hoped. Only drawback for me is some cards are so common you can find them in almost every deck, though that should be solved with an expansion or two. Went 3-3 on my first two arenas, I followed Trump's value standards but found out that my casting cost curve was too low. Live and learn!
I just wished I could buy some gold so I could charge my credit card one time instead of every other arena or whatever.
I just wished I could buy some gold so I could charge my credit card one time instead of every other arena or whatever.
Mures
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Yeah I agree, someone suggested it on the official forums and I bumped it. Hopefully it makes enough noise it gets put in.
Loving the game, getting better. My problem is I just want to rapefest the hero so fast that I don't build my minions correctly, and get my ass handed to me. Need to learn some patience.
Arbitrary
Tranny Chaser
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Get a key (thanks again, Juvarisx), do the tutorial, unlock everyone, draft what I think is a pretty decent Priest deck, look for a game. I get handed a Priest mirror and he hits me with turn 1 Holy Smite.
It's like I've time traveled back to 1996 and no one knows how to play a card game.
It's like I've time traveled back to 1996 and no one knows how to play a card game.
Sounds about right. You have to rip apart a few terribles before you start hitting a challenge in constructed
Got a EU beta key just a few days ago and so far I'm loving it. I've been playing Mage mostly but now I'm enjoying Priest a lot. Northshire Cleric is such a strong card.
Mures
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Yeah I see this as a common mistake to people new to card games. Unless you build a deck to specifically be very aggro (going straight for your opponent's hero) it is almost always better to trade minions on the board.
Nope, grats.
Yeah, no way northshire cleric doesn't get nerfed in someway, probably will change the cost to 2 my guess.
Man. Fuck Lightspawn when you don't have a way to get rid of it. Had no removal/silence in my hand and trading only brought it down to 2 health. Over two turns, he proceeded to heal/buff it up to 18/18 and that was it.
Elerion
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Any opinions on arena class balance atm?
I've just dipped my toe in, doing one full Warlock draft and a barely started Warrior draft. Some thoughts based on the little I have seen:
The Warlock draft I went 4-3, but it should have been at least 5 wins if I hadn't misplayed in the final turn against a shaman. I haven't played shaman yet, and didn't realize how much damage he could pile on with a combination of ATK buffs and windfury on a single dude, so I stupidly let it live instead of taking the safe play and killing it. He was lucky with his topdeck and random totem, but I could have eliminated the risk of that if I played correctly. Either way, the Warlock power is obviously very powerful, but I felt the warlock class cards left me wanting. So many of the minions were situational, and several of the spells were very Demon themed. Maybe I was just unlucky with the draft, but I wasn't too impressed. Most of my wins were just from abusing the warlock power for massive card advantage and then plopping down a bunch of big minions to take control of the board before I could be burned down.
The Warrior draft I'm 1-1, so it's a bit early to tell. The spells and minions seemed significantly better than the Warlock cards, but the downside is that the class power seems underwhelming. The class also seems very focused on synergy, with enrage and weapon/armor-focused cards ideally needing combos to be strong. It seems like it can be extremely powerful with the right draft, but can land you with underpowered draws if you can't draft the necessary synergistic cards. Also, I understand Battle Rage was changed recently, but in its current iteration it seems to be a "win more" card.
In theory, priest, mage, paladin and to some extent druid seems strong. Their class abilities and mechanics seem to work better with plain neutral cards, instead of relying on getting the right class cards to combo them with.
Is any of this accurate?
I've just dipped my toe in, doing one full Warlock draft and a barely started Warrior draft. Some thoughts based on the little I have seen:
The Warlock draft I went 4-3, but it should have been at least 5 wins if I hadn't misplayed in the final turn against a shaman. I haven't played shaman yet, and didn't realize how much damage he could pile on with a combination of ATK buffs and windfury on a single dude, so I stupidly let it live instead of taking the safe play and killing it. He was lucky with his topdeck and random totem, but I could have eliminated the risk of that if I played correctly. Either way, the Warlock power is obviously very powerful, but I felt the warlock class cards left me wanting. So many of the minions were situational, and several of the spells were very Demon themed. Maybe I was just unlucky with the draft, but I wasn't too impressed. Most of my wins were just from abusing the warlock power for massive card advantage and then plopping down a bunch of big minions to take control of the board before I could be burned down.
The Warrior draft I'm 1-1, so it's a bit early to tell. The spells and minions seemed significantly better than the Warlock cards, but the downside is that the class power seems underwhelming. The class also seems very focused on synergy, with enrage and weapon/armor-focused cards ideally needing combos to be strong. It seems like it can be extremely powerful with the right draft, but can land you with underpowered draws if you can't draft the necessary synergistic cards. Also, I understand Battle Rage was changed recently, but in its current iteration it seems to be a "win more" card.
In theory, priest, mage, paladin and to some extent druid seems strong. Their class abilities and mechanics seem to work better with plain neutral cards, instead of relying on getting the right class cards to combo them with.
Is any of this accurate?
Captain Suave
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I'd say so. If I had to make a list of best arena classes, I'd say:
1) Priest
2) Druid
3-4) Mage, Paladin
5-7) Hunter, Shaman, Warlock
8) Warrior
9) Rogue
Part of that list, though, is probably me not knowing how to successfully draft an arena rogue. I just feel like the class is too gimmicky to work out well in arena.
Warriors are alright in arena, but you definitely need to get a decent aggro draft. Fiery War Axe and Arcanite Reaper are a must since their only AOE is Whirlwind (which is terrible unless you have an Armorsmith) or Brawl. So you pretty much have to swing at things and take your lumps to keep their board clear.
Both Priest's and Druid's toolkit is varied enough that you can pretty easily get at least 5-3 even with crappy draws. But Priest's removal (Shadow Word: Pain and Death) are pretty much overpowered plus they have Mind Control.
