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Gavinmad

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These goblin and gnome cards are going to shit all over the meta for constructed with all the random chance involved in them... Which is totally fine by me, cause constructed is awful. They make arena super fun, though. I haven't cared about arena or doing more than farming dailies in forever, but now I find myself actually playing arena with my gold.
Most of the RNG shit isn't really good enough for constructed. The only RNG card I see that is definitely constructed playable is dunemaul shaman, because if you can clear the board the RNG is mitigated and a dunemaul attacking into a clear board is pretty much GG. The piloted shredder and sky golem are maybe playable, but not many games will be decided by those deathrattles.
 

Gavinmad

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Don't think the 4/4 for 3 is good enough? I think it has a chance.
Dancing Swords is already a thing.

To clarify, undercosted bodies with a drawback just haven't been good enough so far in Hearthstone, not counting Ancient Watcher. If I had to choose between a 4/4 with a drawback and Harvest Golem as my 3 drop, I'm gonna take the Harvest Golem every time. Harvest Golem may not trade as favorably, but it's stickier, will have mech synergy in a couple days, and pumps Undertaker if you run it.

Ogre Ninja will be the next test to see if an undercosted body with a drawback is viable. God knows Rogue will need something new now that they've axed Miracle for good.
 

Enob

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A buddy of mine just turn 4 arcane portal and pinged to clear a body. Pulled a 5 mana Tirion Fordring for turn 5. Turn 6 some 2 drop and Echo of Medivh to make a 2nd Tirion. But in another game in that run he got a target dummy from the portal. Definitely a very fun card but arena only and even questionable there.
 

Morrow

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These goblin and gnome cards are going to shit all over the meta for constructed with all the random chance involved in them... Which is totally fine by me, cause constructed is awful. They make arena super fun, though. I haven't cared about arena or doing more than farming dailies in forever, but now I find myself actually playing arena with my gold.
Not really. And like myself and a bunch of others have already said, Huntertaker isn't going anywhere, neither is Undertaker in general. Hunter meta isn't changing and Hunter is pretty much constructed right now lol. It''s hilarious that they nerfed a couple cards that weren't actually the main problem, while they left Undertaker untouched, which is just going to get worse with a few new good Deathrattles. Now that everyone has a 1 mana cost Deathrattle as well, every single damn class is going to be playing Undertaker. It's going to be a super fun couple of weeks while we wait for Blizzard to get a clue and finally nerf Undertaker. Every time I try to conceptualize/imagine their thought process, a comic strip pops into my head and it's just silly how out of touch and clueless they are.

Bahaha was just playing a Rogue in Arena where I had 3 minions on the field and he had 0. He dropped a Madder Bomber and it hit him in the face 5 times and hit my face once. Good shit. So how exactly do "skill full" players utilise these RNG minions properly? That should have been a great play that wiped my Scarlet Crusader and Harvest Golem, instead it put him within lethal for the turn after next. RNG like this is just stupid.

Wow Northshire turn 1 and turn 2 coin Velen's Chosen sure is hard to cope with, like nearly impossible without hard removal. Priest is fucking sick in Arena now. Still on my 2nd GvG draft, as a Paladin, was 6-1 without a Truesilver, but it's too hard to go further than that w/o one. No more Paladin for me.
 

Famm

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Not really. And like myself and a bunch of others have already said, Huntertaker isn't going anywhere, neither is Undertaker in general. Hunter meta isn't changing and Hunter is pretty much constructed right now lol. It''s hilarious that they nerfed a couple cards that weren't actually the main problem, while they left Undertaker untouched
I really don't get why of all things hunter they decided that Flare needed to cost two? And there's not even any new secrets, so why was Flare under the microscope? There's builds that didn't even bother with it at one mana.

Anyway, who knows, maybe another round of card nerfs will be included with the launch patch.
 

Morrow

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I really don't get why of all things hunter they decided that Flare needed to cost two? And there's not even any new secrets, so why was Flare under the microscope? There's builds that didn't even bother with it at one mana.

Anyway, who knows, maybe another round of card nerfs will be included with the launch patch.
Because it wasn't particularly about nerfing Hunter, but about making secrets more viable since Flare so cost efficiently fucks them up. Flare was ridiculous. A 1 mana cantrip that can 2 for 1 or even 3 for 1 or more is absurd.
 

Gavinmad

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I really don't get why of all things hunter they decided that Flare needed to cost two? And there's not even any new secrets, so why was Flare under the microscope? There's builds that didn't even bother with it at one mana.

Anyway, who knows, maybe another round of card nerfs will be included with the launch patch.
The existence of Flare, with hunter being so absurdly popular, made secrets mage completely unviable on ladder, which cuts off a pretty significant amount of the class.
 

Gavinmad

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For Adebisi

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Adebisi

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Zombie chow, eh. A little early game drops to keep the hunters and zoos guessin'?
 

Caal

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I really don't get why of all things hunter they decided that Flare needed to cost two? And there's not even any new secrets, so why was Flare under the microscope? There's builds that didn't even bother with it at one mana.

Anyway, who knows, maybe another round of card nerfs will be included with the launch patch.
Flare is legit one of the best cards in hearthstone. It's the exact kind of card in MTG that no longer exists. Completely busted.
 

Morrow

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Flare is legit one of the best cards in hearthstone. It's the exact kind of card in MTG that no longer exists. Completely busted.
Yup. 1 Mana cantrip that gives you instant card advantage, as badly as 3 for 1 (3 for 0 really) Crazy.

It would have been cool at : "(1) Draw a card. Enemy secrets cannot be triggered this turn and enemy minions lose stealth for this turn only."
 

Moogalak

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FML. not a single epic or better in a rogue arena draft. twice I had 3 murloc rares at once to choose from @@
 

Morrow

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FML. not a single epic or better in a rogue arena draft. twice I had 3 murloc rares at once to choose from @@
I lost to a Priest earlier that had 3 epics. He played them against me as follows. I dropped a Spectral Knight and gave it Divine Shield and Taunt via Coghammer, he followed up with a Shrinkmeister + Cabal Shadow Priest to steal it. I dropped a Molten Giant and he followed up with a Faceless and a Big Game Hunter. I had no epics
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slippery

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I lost to a Priest earlier that had 3 epics. He played them against me as follows. I dropped a Spectral Knight and gave it Divine Shield and Taunt via Coghammer, he followed up with a Shrinkmeister + Cabal Shadow Priest to steal it. I dropped a Molten Giant and he followed up with a Faceless and a Big Game Hunter. I had no epics
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