Heroes of the Storm

Fadaar

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Just got a WoD invite but still no HotS invite
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Wish I could trade. Been playing WoW since classic and I've NEVER gotten an expansion beta invite, but I got a HOTS alpha invite back in April and I've played it twice.
 

Xexx

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So i had error going into using my WoD beta key - i told the chat support chick that id never gotten into beta for anything and was awaiting HoS and she was like "well youre not opt in" im like uh yeah i am im looking at it now and then found out that it can suddenly have you not showing as being opt into beta unless you periodically update your preferences. So all the while ive been waiting to get in ive not even been showing up as opt in on their systems..
 

Tenks

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So they're adding artifact slots which is in effect runes from LoL. Combined with the adding of runes and the fact the entire hero roster is locked I don't see how this game could be advertised as a casual MOBA. At this rate it would take about 300 hours to level up all your artifacts to 10. That isn't even including buying any heroes with gold, either. Hype for the game is fading.
 

Daidraco

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So they're adding artifact slots which is in effect runes from LoL. Combined with the adding of runes and the fact the entire hero roster is locked I don't see how this game could be advertised as a casual MOBA. At this rate it would take about 300 hours to level up all your artifacts to 10. That isn't even including buying any heroes with gold, either. Hype for the game is fading.
If they deemed this game as a failure, I wonder if it would still be released or if they would scrap it?
 

Pyros

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It's the same system as LoL so I don't think that many people will mind because that's what the leader in the market does. Personally find it absolutely awful though but eh last time I complained about the system a lot of people came to defend it because of the LoL precedent.

At least they're adding more sources of gold so that's nice, even though it looks more like they're reducing the amount of gold for casual players and only increasing it for hardcore players while simultaneously increasing the gold requirements, so... yeah.
 

Tenks

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Yeah it used to be 250-500g per day via quests. I think they still have dailies giving like 100-200g then 40/10g per win or loss. So you can grind forever for gold but no more log in and play a fee games thing which I loved.
 

Dudebro_sl

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I'm not a fan of this system. How is a new player supposed to compete with veterans at all? We all know those little stat boosts will still make a big difference. I did my time and ground that shit out in LoL, and I can't say I liked it.

If they were serious about just adding customization to your characters they would just make these artifacts free for everyone to pick and choose what they want on a char right from the start.


This is just a ploy to make you have to spend your gold on something else so you buy champions with real money. Fuckers.
 
It's the same system as LoL so I don't think that many people will mind because that's what the leader in the market does. Personally find it absolutely awful though but eh last time I complained about the system a lot of people came to defend it because of the LoL precedent.

At least they're adding more sources of gold so that's nice, even though it looks more like they're reducing the amount of gold for casual players and only increasing it for hardcore players while simultaneously increasing the gold requirements, so... yeah.
I doubt you would find anyone here who would defend the rune system from LoL and having fun to grind for that shit again in Heroes

note: I'm not against the idea of customization via runes itself but the costs attached to it
 

Mures

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Yeah, some really bad choices being made, my only hope is they fall flat on their face in alpha and get canned. Runes/artifacts are nothing more than a gateway holding newer players back. And the hero changes are just absurd. So you BUY a hero, but you can't even use all of their talents until you play over a dozen games with them. No thanks, this is not the kind of "depth" the game needs to answer the cries of no runes/masteries.
 

Tenks

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Yeah, some really bad choices being made, my only hope is they fall flat on their face in alpha and get canned. Runes/artifacts are nothing more than a gateway holding newer players back. And the hero changes are just absurd. So you BUY a hero, but you can't even use all of their talents until you play over a dozen games with them. No thanks, this is not the kind of "depth" the game needs to answer the cries of no runes/masteries.
I *think* the entire talents open up after two games played. At least that is how you achieve hero rank 2 at the moment.
 

Mures

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I *think* the entire talents open up after two games played. At least that is how you achieve hero rank 2 at the moment.
I believe I remember reading it is just the 3rd talent choice at rank 2, I can't remember if you get the final one until rank 3 or 4, but I want to say it was 4, which would be 16 games under the old system so it should be something similar to that.

NM, just looked it up again, you get your 2nd ult at hero lvl 2 and you don't get all your talents until hero lvl 4. It wouldn't be so bad if you got all your talents at 2 to encourage ppl to play a couple of bot games to get accustomed to the hero and unlock the talents, but having to buy a hero and then playing a dozen or so games on EACH character to fully unlock them is not something I want to do and with our we want everything now society I can't see people being happy with paying rl cash for something and not even being able to fully utilize it.
 

Tenks

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I believe I remember reading it is just the 3rd talent choice at rank 2, I can't remember if you get the final one until rank 3 or 4, but I want to say it was 4, which would be 16 games under the old system so it should be something similar to that.

NM, just looked it up again, you get your 2nd ult at hero lvl 2 and you don't get all your talents until hero lvl 4. It wouldn't be so bad if you got all your talents at 2 to encourage ppl to play a couple of bot games to get accustomed to the hero and unlock the talents, but having to buy a hero and then playing a dozen or so games on EACH character to fully unlock them is not something I want to do and with our we want everything now society I can't see people being happy with paying rl cash for something and not even being able to fully utilize it.
Ah yeah thats right. Such a stupid system. I hope blizzard re-evaluates it. I liked the current system of "get your feet wet then get all talents" instead of this bullshit of buying a hero then having to play a bunch to unlock the full hero. Since 9/10 clicky talents are better than passive talents and all clickies are now behind the talent wall.
 

Mures

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Wow and I just read the artifacts blog, they are stupidly op, 10-15% boosts to these stats mean new players can't even compete.
 

Tenks

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Yeah its really dumb. Someone calculated a fully slotted Diablo can regen like 250 HP/s. Which is more HP/s than Lili heals.
 

Dis

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Move Speed is going to be OP, then it will turn to buff stun locks to counter speed, then it will just be god awful boring. Side note: When I play Lili, my win percentage is through the roof on pubs. Any other character it is a crap shoot, exception being Tyrande, which I can win more than lose, but Lili by far I win way more. Team balance is king in this game.
 

Mures

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I've been doing some pub stomping with tassadar, storm op. And I had a couple of strong games on nazeebo last night even when 3/4 of my teammates had no clue what they were doing the 2nd game.
 

Tenks

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Tassadar is a really strong hero in general for pubs. Usually my "I'm tired of losing" heroes are Arthas and Brightwing.