Hex: Shards of Fate TCG - Set 7: Frostheart 6/29/17

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velk

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Just started Grinding the Arena, ran into the guy who does -1 on all non flight characters then rapes you with free 1/1 flight creatures >.<
Eldritch Dreamer is a pain in the ass, he's probably the third most annoying opponent after Warbot and Xaaaaaaarloooooooxxxxxx ! Heh.

For those who are having troubles with the arena starting out, or people who are considering trying the game :

This guy has put together a deck made mostly of dwarf starter and commons that is as effective for arena as lots of decks costing $100 -F2P guide to Arena: Dwarves
 

Palum

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OK, I'm trying to get into this after uninstalling it in a fit of rage during the alpha. Comparing to hearthstone, the UI is unintuitive and about as backwards as MTGO.

1) The AH seems AWFUL. I just want an EVE-like market to sell extras to open orders for them. Is there a better way around this? Just paging through 9 million listings of the same card... what the fuck were they thinking?

2) Is there a way to review cards not in your collection but that fit specific criteria to plan decks?

3) How can you get gold besides 100 at a time in Arena? I have like 9 million chests to open.
 

Palum

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OK Arena is bugged as shit. Stupid ember sprite lady or whatever. You're supposed to get +1 charge. Instead, I get 0 and ember sprite immediately activates her 5 charge hero ability which instead of looking at 5 cards in her deck to find plants, I see all the creatures in my entire deck and get to select one. Once that's done, nothing happens.

Wow. lol

OK: didn't get the +1 charge like I should have but maybe there's a beginning of battle ability she has that I just don't remember on the tooltip.
 

Attog

Blackwing Lair Raider
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OK Arena is bugged as shit. Stupid ember sprite lady or whatever. You're supposed to get +1 charge. Instead, I get 0 and ember sprite immediately activates her 5 charge hero ability which instead of looking at 5 cards in her deck to find plants, I see all the creatures in my entire deck and get to select one. Once that's done, nothing happens.

Wow. lol

OK: didn't get the +1 charge like I should have but maybe there's a beginning of battle ability she has that I just don't remember on the tooltip.
super buggy, half the time you don't get the stuff you are supposed to get. Maybe not half but definitely 1/4 the time. On the flip side you will win more than half the games you should have lost for sure, because the UI does incredibly stupid things. Killing its own creatures, blocking the wrong stuff, not attacking when it has clear lethal, etc etc etc.

Yes the AH sucks but was pretty huge that they got it in at all so we shouldn't complain.
 

Kuro

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OK Arena is bugged as shit. Stupid ember sprite lady or whatever. You're supposed to get +1 charge.
That pop-up is telling you that you will have the +1 Charge for the Final Boss of that grouping, not for the next mini-boss.
Instead, I get 0 and ember sprite immediately activates her 5 charge hero ability which instead of looking at 5 cards in her deck to find plants, I see all the creatures in my entire deck and get to select one. Once that's done, nothing happens.
That boss has two abilities. At the start of the game you select a critter in your deck to get 4 more copies of. Then she also has a charge ability. Look at the circle to the left as well as the right.

Each set of mini-bosses will feature one "bonus challenge", which will reward you if you win. The reward will apply to the final boss of that "wing."
 

Mahes

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OK, I'm trying to get into this after uninstalling it in a fit of rage during the alpha. Comparing to hearthstone, the UI is unintuitive and about as backwards as MTGO.

1) The AH seems AWFUL. I just want an EVE-like market to sell extras to open orders for them. Is there a better way around this? Just paging through 9 million listings of the same card... what the fuck were they thinking?

2) Is there a way to review cards not in your collection but that fit specific criteria to plan decks?

3) How can you get gold besides 100 at a time in Arena? I have like 9 million chests to open.
1) The AH is very unfinished. You can click on minimum bid if you want to see lowest price. Can also filter out searches. It is basic but it isn't "That" bad. I am pretty sure many improvements are coming.

2) Upper Right portion of window has filter commands that include a way to see things not owned.

3) If you win the arena it awards 6000+ gold. Playing a full arena takes 1-2 hours. If you get lucky and find the Dragon Boss and beat him, it awards 100,000 Gold. I have not seen him yet.


The AI makes a LOT of mistakes. Take advantage of it before they do fix it.
 

Palum

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super buggy, half the time you don't get the stuff you are supposed to get. Maybe not half but definitely 1/4 the time. On the flip side you will win more than half the games you should have lost for sure, because the UI does incredibly stupid things. Killing its own creatures, blocking the wrong stuff, not attacking when it has clear lethal, etc etc etc.

Yes the AH sucks but was pretty huge that they got it in at all so we shouldn't complain.
Considering this is basically MTGO client (again) I'm not really impressed at all thus far. Frost Arena is really a lot less interesting than the 'volcano island' map they spoiled during the Kickstarter. I guess I had envisioned more like Naxx in Hearthstone with unique deck challenges instead of the 'pay $100 and win prizes!' thing.

I suppose my biggest worry isn't incomplete content, it's just how frustratingly obtuse everything is. They promised MTGO: The Next Generation and instead we so far have MTGO: $2 Booster Packs with a hamfisted PvE component, despite the fact that it was billed as a primary feature. Granted, it's nothorrible, but neither is the competition. Plus, at least Hearthstone truly is F2P even if it is not anywhere near as intricate of a game as I'd like.

So now I'm stuck pondering this:

MTGO is the best core game
Hearthstone has the best client
Hex has...?

Of course, I already 'paid in' so I can come back in a year and pick up when it's 'awesome' (hypothetically) but, still, I'm trying to 'love' it so hard that it's breaking my heart to see the same basic BS mistakes from MTGO make it into Hex. If MTGO was Gen 1, Hearthstone was Gen 2 and honestly I'd have to place Hex back in Gen 1 as well for OCCGs. Some of the cards are hilariously clunky, it's seriously MTGO all over again.
 

Palum

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Awesome, made a green Shin'are token deck. Near the end of approximately every other arena match the computer will freeze trying to decide how to attack when low health with a bunch of tokens on the board and I can't do anything but concede.

There should at least be an AI timer where it just does nothing and moves to the next phase after a certain amount of time. I mean, if it takes the CPU more than a few seconds to do anything, it's clearly not able to work.
 

Selix

Lord Nagafen Raider
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Awesome, made a green Shin'are token deck. Near the end of approximately every other arena match the computer will freeze trying to decide how to attack when low health with a bunch of tokens on the board and I can't do anything but concede.

There should at least be an AI timer where it just does nothing and moves to the next phase after a certain amount of time. I mean, if it takes the CPU more than a few seconds to do anything, it's clearly not able to work.
Yes I noticed that to. Definitely needs a fix.
 

Selix

Lord Nagafen Raider
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Considering this is basically MTGO client (again) I'm not really impressed at all thus far. Frost Arena is really a lot less interesting than the 'volcano island' map they spoiled during the Kickstarter. I guess I had envisioned more like Naxx in Hearthstone with unique deck challenges instead of the 'pay $100 and win prizes!' thing.

I suppose my biggest worry isn't incomplete content, it's just how frustratingly obtuse everything is. They promised MTGO: The Next Generation and instead we so far have MTGO: $2 Booster Packs with a hamfisted PvE component, despite the fact that it was billed as a primary feature. Granted, it's nothorrible, but neither is the competition. Plus, at least Hearthstone truly is F2P even if it is not anywhere near as intricate of a game as I'd like.

So now I'm stuck pondering this:

MTGO is the best core game
Hearthstone has the best client
Hex has...?

Of course, I already 'paid in' so I can come back in a year and pick up when it's 'awesome' (hypothetically) but, still, I'm trying to 'love' it so hard that it's breaking my heart to see the same basic BS mistakes from MTGO make it into Hex. If MTGO was Gen 1, Hearthstone was Gen 2 and honestly I'd have to place Hex back in Gen 1 as well for OCCGs. Some of the cards are hilariously clunky, it's seriously MTGO all over again.
Palum I'm with you in that they still have along way to go to beat MTGO and Hearthstone but if you look at how far they have come since beta there are clear improvements over time. It isn't as fast as I'd like but I can clearly enjoy a few games and arena isn't a disaster. At this stage bad PvE could have been a death kneel for the game given the competition. As long as they keep improving the code (and they clearly have) then I will still given them the benefit of the doubt. They definitely need to get the client working as smooth as butter.
 

Palum

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I would give them the benefit of the doubt, my frustration is that they are already full-on rape-wallets mode. Even though I have the King tier cards and shit, I didn't get enough of the right ones to get over the proverbial 'usable deck' hump with card quality. And that was back when there was only the single set.

I'm not going to drop more $$ on this game with it being in the shape it is. Yet, I can tell already with set 2 that by time they get their shit together I will be so far behind my initial pledge will have meant barely anything at all. So yea, color me salty that they started releasing new sets before finishing the game, I guess. And christ, even after doing a ton of arena I could only afford to open a few common chests with gold... out of the 150+ I have... lol. To make it better, one rolled upgrade chest... WHICH STILL COSTS YET MORE GOLD TO OPEN LOL
 

Mahes

Bronze Baronet of the Realm
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Where are you reading a cost of gold to open a chest? You cannot even open chests yet. Now I am wondering if you are just trolling.
 

Selix

Lord Nagafen Raider
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I would give them the benefit of the doubt, my frustration is that they are already full-on rape-wallets mode. Even though I have the King tier cards and shit, I didn't get enough of the right ones to get over the proverbial 'usable deck' hump with card quality. And that was back when there was only the single set.

I'm not going to drop more $$ on this game with it being in the shape it is. Yet, I can tell already with set 2 that by time they get their shit together I will be so far behind my initial pledge will have meant barely anything at all. So yea, color me salty that they started releasing new sets before finishing the game, I guess. And christ, even after doing a ton of arena I could only afford to open a few common chests with gold... out of the 150+ I have... lol. To make it better, one rolled upgrade chest... WHICH STILL COSTS YET MORE GOLD TO OPEN LOL
That's really how these games work and weird though it sounds it'd better that they stick to a regular release cycle IF this game becomes popular the scarcity of set one cards and set two cards will make them damn valuable. Yes it is a massive IF but still an important one. (Right now there are a bazillion set one cards out there but set 2 is actually really good and scarce) There are a bunch of set 2 and set 2 equipment that I want already.
 

Selix

Lord Nagafen Raider
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Where are you reading a cost of gold to open a chest? You cannot even open chests yet. Now I am wondering if you are just trolling.
Yes you can. You open chests just like you open packs in gambling screen thing. You can also get more gold grinding arena. I'm still trying to get a deck that can perfect stage 2!.
 

Mahes

Bronze Baronet of the Realm
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No, you can "Spin" the chests. Later you will be able to "Open" them. In other words chests have two chances to win things.

I was referencing this line : "one rolled upgrade chest... WHICH STILL COSTS YET MORE GOLD TO OPEN LOL"

This makes it sound like he rolled the upgrade and then he has to pay more gold to open it when there is no cost to open it, much less the current capability too.
 

Palum

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No, you can "Spin" the chests. Later you will be able to "Open" them. In other words chests have two chances to win things.

I was referencing this line : "one rolled upgrade chest... WHICH STILL COSTS YET MORE GOLD TO OPEN LOL"

This makes it sound like he rolled the upgrade and then he has to pay more gold to open it when there is no cost to open it, much less the current capability too.
Spin, open, whatever. Still not in game. Honestly thought spin opened them but was added first because it costs gold. I got an equipment out of one spin.
 

Attog

Blackwing Lair Raider
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Gold seems pretty worthless aside from spinning chests. The only cards you can buy on the AH for gold are commons and the only cards I need any of are rares and legendaries so I just spend all excess gold on working to upgrade the chests for whenever we are able to open them.

Enjoying the Arena so far but once I get a full set of the equipment I think I'll be done again. If anybody has seen a list of all the equipment you can get from Arena post it.
 

Raign

Golden Squire
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Here is the equipment list by creature that uses it:
https://hextcg.com/arena-pve-card-and-equipment-guide/
It does not include the effects on the cards though

Here is a good guide to the arena bosses:
http://www.hexprimal.com/hex-frost-ring-arena-guide/

This has most of the listed equipment effects:
Hex TCG Browser Deckbuilder | Search all Hex TCG cards and manage your collection and decks

Other than the freezing (which sucks but is often cured by just closing hex and reopening it), the fact that the auction house does not appear to show effects of the equipment when click or mouse over them is my biggest peeve. Over all though, really enjoying arena a lot. Also, to the people who hate the UI, give it some time, I LOATHED it at first, but now that I am used to it, I like it way better than hearthstone or MTGO. The learning curve is higher, but it is much more feature rich once you figure it out.
 

Attog

Blackwing Lair Raider
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Thanks for those. I'm dumb and I don't understand what the difference is between "Equipment" and "Arena Cards Equipment."
 

Raign

Golden Squire
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Thanks for those. I'm dumb and I don't understand what the difference is between "Equipment" and "Arena Cards Equipment."
Not sure if there is one in the current iteration of beta. I am guessing they are seperating it out because their will be different categories of equipment for different pve (raids etc.) down the road, but as far as I have been able to tell, there isn't any difference currently as I use both Wrenlock's in list in the arena, but they are 'Shards of Fate' and have won a number of items from all categories of the list in the arena