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How black is the main character? My grandma looked more black than Katherine Johnson in some of these photos
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Hidden Figures: we wuz space kangz
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Haven't seen the movie yet, but from what i've read about the film, they had to invent racism and add racist characters even back in the 60s to make it seem like it was worse than it was.
Not sure if it's as bad as that Angelina Jolie film "Race" which was completely revisionist to (having to invent racism all the way in the 30s damn) but I mean, it just made hitler look more racist than he was, and who is going to defend hitler?
Not sure if it's as bad as that Angelina Jolie film "Race" which was completely revisionist to (having to invent racism all the way in the 30s damn) but I mean, it just made hitler look more racist than he was, and who is going to defend hitler?
After watching that video, it seems they got the big points of the movie spot on. If there was added racism, I don't think it was too heavy handed. The Jim Parsons character seemed a bit overboard to me, but that was about it. Maybe they made Mary's husband a little more black militant than he was, but not too bad.
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Which is fairly common in "true life" movies. Another concurrent example is Mark Wahlberg's character in Patriots Day. He plays a fictional character that is based on an amalgamation of multiple individuals, though obviously to a different effect.
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Or you know in order to tell a story you have to give the audience a protagonist or group of protagonists to relate/empathize with etc. Kind of a stupid complaint that the drama didn't focus on a faceless group of people. Truth in story telling is more important than verisimilitude.
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Just finished watching this and I would say the amount of overt racism in the movie is pretty small. There is an anti-segregation protest that one of them sees with her boys, which I assume was real because they had a picture of it during the credits. The same character is thrown out of the library for going in the white section and then rides in the back of the bus. Everything else is basically people dealing with the status quo of segregated Virginia in the mid 60s.
Hell, I am pretty them being women causes bigger problems for them than being black, especially from Jim Parsons.
The cop at the beginning clearly stops because the women are black, but then goes on to escort them to Langley as he cares more about beating the Russians than black or white, which feels like a bigger message of this movie. America came together at some level to win the space race. The one women becomes and engineer after going to court to go to a segregated white school (and again the teacher wasn't like "what are you doing here negro", he thought she couldnt do it cause she was a women). Kevin Kostner does the thing with the bathrooms so that his computer doesnt waste so much time every day (even though this is apparently embellished, the fact that in real life she just used the White Women bathroom speaks to the same "Fuck Race, we gotta beat the Russians" theme). The IBM guys question Programming lady for like 20 seconds cause she was clearly not where she was supposed to be, then when they realize she got the damn thing working and had an army of Fortran Programmers it was time to invite every black person to the East Campus because, God Dammit, we arent gonna be shown up by the fucking Russians. Kirsten Dunst is an uppity white bitch basically the whole movie, but her character was more the exception than the rule.
And the soundtrack was awesome.
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The only real issue with the marketing is the idea that these people weren't celebrated as they should've been because they were black (at least, that's the impression I've gotten). What other NASA workers at the time who weren't astronauts can you name? Maybe one or two? It's not like all these behind-the-scenes players got a huge societal pat on the back and these women were just ignored.
I'll probably end up seeing it. I just hope Janelle Monae isn't as annoying in the movie as she in in the trailers and in real life.
I'll probably end up seeing it. I just hope Janelle Monae isn't as annoying in the movie as she in in the trailers and in real life.
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The division of black/white units didn't exist, and a bunch of other 'systemic' stuff. NASA was really egalitarian, both in terms of race and sex.
Issue is, there was no 'black campus'. They weren't segregated. I don't believe the bathrooms were segregated either (Though I don't have exact informality on that?)
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a bit of quick information. found in five seconds
https://crgis.ndc.nasa.gov/historic/Human_Computers
Katherine Johnson - Wikipedia
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Which part of the movie took place in the NACA? Which ended being an organization before the film takes place?
NASA, which adopted digital computers. The installation was desegregated
Nothing at NASA was segregated.
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I think you misunderstood. The quote pointed out that NASA was desegregated. The NACA was not however. If there are segregated offices in the movie then chalk it up to artistic license taking something that occurred up to the late 50s in the same facility preceding (same) agency same employees. Haven't seen it yet.
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Yeah, but its a pretty big deal. From what I understand, NACA didn't want to segregate anything but they obeyed the state law. NASA did not, they did the right thing in spite of it and everyone at NASA went along with it. It's something we should commend and it was twisted for artistic license. What's more, it wasn't black women doing so well which pushed them--the evil white males at the top decided the moment they formed the organization to be inclusive.
I get artistic license. I do. But we exist now in a culture where this stuff is politicized . And I'm not even getting into how these ladies didn't actually make the big developments that were shown in the film--a single man came up with the orbit. They had very little to do with it. That in the film is taking someone's history--who is still alive, and attributing it to someone else (Something the lady did not do in her book).
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Anecdotal half truths. I saw it. They muddied the timeline as usual. I looked into the story too. Braveheart was a piece of shit according to such standards.
Anyone that thinks 300 is a history lesson is, well...
Hidden Figures was a good time. It presented a positive message and that's all I care about. It's a movie.
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Bro, little different for a historical figure which isn't still alive today and deals with issues that are not currently getting people beaten in the streets and causing protests. Fuck, Scotland doesn't even want to leave anymore--they CHOSE to stay. So no one is really going to give a shit if Robert the Bruce is actually more William Wallace than Wallace was.
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Pretty overdramatic reasoning implying this movie has anything to do with people being beaten in the streets today.
The big difference between the two is that this movie's whole draw depends on all this stuff being true while Braveheart's an awesome movie even if it's entirely a work of fiction.