Hodj is worse than AIDS, at least Charlie Sheen doesn't have him

Cad · Nov 17, 2015

hodj_sl said:
And if you know anything about pay in porn, you'd know the males get paid less than the females across the board

Shemales aren't females

hodj_sl said:
and that the high demand for shemale actors and the prices they pull for escorting demonstrates that they make more money than straight or gay male actors in the industry.

Source?

Abefroman · Nov 17, 2015

Chukzombi · Nov 17, 2015

christ, just stop already.
Here's What Female Porn Stars Get Paid For Different Types Of Scenes - Business Insider

hodj · Nov 17, 2015

Cad_sl said:
Shemales aren't females

No shit sherlock but they play the female role in porn, and therefore get paid more comparably to that position.

Source?

Gay male actors make about 500 bucks a shoot for actual anal sex and blowjobs.

Shemales make that JUST FOR POSING NUDE with no sex involved at all.

They make between 750-1500 for sex scenes, on average, more if they're popular. Females tend to get 1000-1500 for the same scenes.

Here's What Female Porn Stars Get Paid For Different Types Of Scenes - Business Insider

Porn genres, Sub-genes and Laws around the world; Porn Pay Scale - Infographics

https://www.quora.com/How-much-do-porn-actors-get-paid

Abefroman · Nov 17, 2015

Maester Chuk_sl said:
christ, just stop already.
Here's What Female Porn Stars Get Paid For Different Types Of Scenes - Business Insider

That has fuck all to do with tranny porn.

Cad · Nov 17, 2015

hodj_sl said:
No shit sherlock but they play the female role in porn, and therefore get paid more comparably to that position.

Gay male actors make about 500 bucks a shoot for actual anal sex and blowjobs.

Shemales make that JUST FOR POSING NUDE with no sex involved at all.

They make between 750-1500 for sex scenes, on average, more if they're popular. Females tend to get 1000-1500 for the same scenes.

Here's What Female Porn Stars Get Paid For Different Types Of Scenes - Business Insider

Porn genres, Sub-genes and Laws around the world; Porn Pay Scale - Infographics

https://www.quora.com/How-much-do-porn-actors-get-paid

Clicked all your links, found no mention of pay for tranny actors

Source not provided

hodj · Nov 17, 2015

Abefroman_sl said:
That has fuck all to do with tranny porn.

No, it doesn't because the shemales are paid closer to the female rates. They aren't exact, but they basically split the middle between male and female rates.

That's the point.

Men make the least in the industry. Men who appear as females make more than regular men. Females make the most.

The willingness to be a bottom, to take the loads, to appear as feminine, and the willingness to do same sex porn is what drives the prices.

That's why femme men who get into the industry will often go shemale while they're youthful and can pull it off to make more money. Exactly what I said originally.

I dunno why you all have turned this into some sort of debate. Its entirely basic market economics.

Cad_sl said:
Clicked all your links, found no mention of pay for tranny actors

Source not provided

Tough shit kiddo. I'm right and you're wrong whether you like it or not.

Cad · Nov 17, 2015

hodj_sl said:
No, it doesn't because the shemales are paid closer to the female rates. They aren't exact, but they basically split the middle between male and female rates.

Source?

hodj_sl said:
Men who appear as females make more than regular men.

Source?

hodj_sl said:
The willingness to be a bottom, to take the loads, to appear as feminine, and the willingness to do same sex porn is what drives the prices.

Source?

hodj_sl said:
That's why femme men who get into the industry will often go shemale while they're youthful and can pull it off to make more money. Exactly what I said originally.

I dunno why you all have turned this into some sort of debate. Its entirely basic market economics.

Do you have any sources at all or are you done Misting over here?

Abefroman · Nov 17, 2015

hodj_sl said:
No, it doesn't because the shemales are paid closer to the female rates. They aren't exact, but they basically split the middle between male and female rates.

That's the point.

Men make the least in the industry. Men who appear as females make more than regular men. Females make the most.

The willingness to be a bottom, to take the loads, to appear as feminine, and the willingness to do same sex porn is what drives the prices.

That's why femme men who get into the industry will often go shemale while they're youthful and can pull it off to make more money. Exactly what I said originally.

I dunno why you all have turned this into some sort of debate. Its entirely basic market economics.

In one of your links it shows that gay porn is much more popular then shemale porn. Doesn't basic market economics show that gay porn would then pay more then shemale porn? I have no idea how much shemales make but I cant find fucking anything that says it.

Thread about aids and charlie sheen gets a tranny porn derail. Just rerolled things.

I'm waiting for this thread to end up in the hall of fame when Hodj reveals his tranny porn name.

hodj · Nov 17, 2015

When you get over being such a fucking retard and actually address the points I'm making instead of ignoring them and then demanding more citations, let me know.

Until then, I know for a fact that what I've said is correct.

Abefroman_sl said:
In one of your links it shows that gay porn is much more popular then shemale porn. Doesn't basic market economics show that gay porn would then pay more then shemale porn?

No, because there are more men willing to do gay porn for pay, including straight men. More workers = lower wages.

I have no idea how much shemales make but I cant find fucking anything that says it.

I have a source but its to a hard core porn website forum and its a decade old. The wage scale has changed a lot in that decade because the demand has changed a lot in that decade for the stuff. The advent of the Tumblr age has made transgender stuff less taboo overall, so there's higher demand than there once was.

Chukzombi · Nov 17, 2015

Abefroman_sl said:
That has fuck all to do with tranny porn.

trannies are dudes,dudes get paid less in porn, so why would putting on a dress make any difference?

Eomer · Nov 17, 2015

hodj_sl said:
I dunno why you all have turned this into some sort of debate. Its entirely basic market economics.

It's not "you all". It's basically Cad, and now Abefroman. That's it. You're not being persecuted.

hodj_sl said:
Tough shit kiddo. I'm right and you're wrong whether you like it or not.

Near as I can tell, Cad hasn't taken any sort of position one way or another. He's just asked for a source to back up your claims, and you've lost your fucking mind that he'd have the gall to do so.

It's genius, really.

Abefroman · Nov 17, 2015

Maester Chuk_sl said:
trannies are dudes,dudes get paid less in porn, so why would putting on a dress make any difference?

Tranny porn is less popular then gay porn.

Soygen · Nov 17, 2015

hodj_sl said:
I just cited you a shemale in the porn industry verifying my statements about how shemales in the porn industry are treated by shemales outside the porn industry because they feel that their lack of going "all the way" with the process verifies a stereotype of the shemales as oversexed males yadda yadda.

Suck it down.

An anecdotal interview with a single transsexual is your proof? How would that evidence hold up under any other subject you debate?

"But but /pol/ said so!!"

Chukzombi · Nov 17, 2015

Abefroman_sl said:
Tranny porn is less popular then gay porn.

i will just concede that point, its not something i have interest in. though Bugs Bunny was sexy when he dressed as a girl bunny.

Abefroman · Nov 17, 2015

Maester Chuk_sl said:
i will just concede that point, its not something i have interest in. though Bugs Bunny was sexy when he dressed as a girl bunny.

I'm honestly just curious and for something that is common knowledge, I cant find one fucking link that compares the two.

hodj · Nov 17, 2015

Soygen_sl said:
An anecdotal interview with a single transsexual is your proof? How would that evidence hold up under any other subject you debate?

"But but /pol/ said so!!"

Its sex industry work.

Its a taboo industry in general. That tends to be the case

Eomer_sl said:
It's not "you all". It's basically Cad, and now Abefroman. That's it. You're not being persecuted.

No one said anything about being persecuted and its actually Soy, Cad, Abe, and now you.

Near as I can tell, Cad hasn't taken any sort of position one way or another.

So fucking what?

No one has lost their mind, its just a stupid conversation I thought this shit was common knowledge, when I made the post I didn't expect Cad to leap in here and start demanding fucking citations for what is generally, from what I understand, common knowledge in the industry.

I wasn't looking for an argument when I made my initial post in the first fucking place.

Maester Chuk_sl said:
trannies are dudes,dudes get paid less in porn, so why would putting on a dress make any difference?

The way the industry works is not the way we work out here in the real world.

If you present as a female in the porn industry, and do female roles, you get paid comparable female wages.

Abefroman_sl said:
I'm honestly just curious and for something that is common knowledge, I cant find one fucking link that compares the two.

That's the thing. The only thing anyone has to go on is what the porn stars themselves report. There haven't been any major studies done on the subject that I'm aware of.

Tranny porn stars say they make wages comparable to females in the industry.

The only thing we can look at is the pay rates for females. They tend to get like 1000 bucks a shoot with a dude, they charge like an extra 100 bucks per guy, anal nets another 300 or some odd, etc. Less if they're new or amateurs, more if they're popular, well known, etc.

Shemales in the industry are treated like females, so that's probably why its hard to find anything specific about shemales. They're lumped in with the female rates.

Adebisi · Nov 17, 2015

this thread is poz loads

Royal · Nov 17, 2015

Okay, this is just for one site (kink.com) but it's probably not a stretch to assume it's representative of the industry as a whole in terms of pay for the various genders. It's a BDSM oriented site though, so it's probably higher than the industry average:

MODEL RATES - STUDIO SHOOTS

Model pay varies according to content, sexual contact and website, as well as industry experience, but the following rates should give you, a potential model, a general idea of what kind of pay is to be expected when shooting for Kink.com. Pay rate is determined at the time of booking.

Female Models
Female Models make $500 - $600 in a solo shoot.
Female Models make $500 - $800 as a top or bottom as a participant in a girl/girl shoot.
Female Models make $600 - $1300 as a top or bottom in a boy/girl shoot.
Female Models make $700 - $1100 as a bottom in a TS female/girl shoot.

Male Models
Male models make $500 as a bottom in a boy/TS female shoot.
Male models make $500 as a bottom in a boy/girl shoot.
Male models make $800+ as a top or bottom in a boy/boy shoot.
Male models make $200 - $400 as a top in a boy/girl shoot. Pay is highly dependent upon experience and performance in this category.

TS Female Models
TS Female models make $800 - $1200 as a top in a TS Female/boy shoot or a TS Female/girl shoot.

hodj · Nov 17, 2015

Thanks Royal.

Now we can put the issue to rest and go back to making fun of Charlie Sheen.

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