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hodj

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its popular calling a standard action performed by every President illegal

See? They can't help but just lie to my face like they're stupid.

Standard for a president: You get this in exchange for that thing that helps the nation as a whole

Non standard and in fact illegal for any politician: You get this in exchange for that thing that benefits me exclusively either financially, electorally or otherwise

Shut the fuck up you retard
 

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Every witness said they had no evidence of a crime being committed.

See? They can't help but just lie to my face like they're stupid.

Every witness said the exact opposite, I watched the hearings. This is you trying to wallow the conversation in dogshit and lies.

Shut the fuck up you retard.
 

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"Who you gonna believe? Me? Or you're lying eyes and ears?"

Every con artist, snake oil peddler, cult member, and sociopath narcissist in history has tried this line of argumentation.

I trust my senses and my abilities more than I trust yours. And I find those witnesses testimony credible and I don't find your flailing about Joe Biden particularly credible whatsoever.

That's the end of the story
 

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In December 2008, then-Governor of Illinois Rod Blagojevich and his Chief of Staff John Harris were charged with corruption by federal prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald. As a result, Blagojevich was impeached by the Illinois General Assembly and removed from office by the Illinois Senate in January 2009. The federal investigation continued after his removal from office, and he was indicted on corruption charges in April of that year.[3] The jury found Blagojevich guilty of one charge of making false statements with a mistrial being declared on the other 23 counts due to a hung jury after 14 days of jury deliberation.[4] On June 27, 2011, after a retrial, Blagojevich was found guilty of 17 charges (including wire fraud, attempted extortion, and conspiracy to solicit bribes), not guilty on one charge and the jury deadlocked after 10 days of deliberation on the two remaining charges.[5][6] On December 7, 2011, Blagojevich was sentenced to 14 years in prison.[7]

The investigation became public knowledge when a federal judge revealed that Blagojevich was the "Public Official A" in the indictment of Tony Rezko. The case gained widespread attention with the simultaneous arrests of Blagojevich and Harris on the morning of December 9, 2008 at their homes by federal agents.[8][9] Blagojevich and Harris were each charged with one count of conspiracy to commit mail and wire fraud and one count of soliciting bribes. The case involved sweeping pay to play and influence peddling allegations, including the alleged solicitation of personal benefit in exchange for an appointment to the U.S. Senate as a replacement for Barack Obama, who had resigned after being elected U.S. President (see bribery).[10] U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald noted that there had been no evidence of wrongdoing by Obama.[11]

After the arrest, Illinois elected officials began calling on Blagojevich to resign. The 50 members of the U.S. Senate's Democratic caucus called on Blagojevich to not appoint a senator and pledged not to seat anyone he attempted to appoint. Legislators introduced bills in both houses of the Illinois General Assembly to remove the Governor's power to appoint a senator and require a special election; however, no such bill passed. Blagojevich did eventually appoint Roland Burris to the seat. Despite attempts to keep Burris from taking the seat in the U.S. Senate, he was eventually allowed to take the oath of office. Within days of Blagojevich's arrest, Illinois Attorney General Lisa Madigan filed a motion with the Illinois Supreme Court seeking to declare the Governor "unable to serve" and strip him of the powers of his office. The court denied the request. Meanwhile, Illinois House Speaker Mike Madigan (the Attorney General's father) announced that on December 16 he would begin impeachment proceedings. The state House impeached Blagojevich on January 9, 2009, and the state Senate convicted him 20 days later, thereby removing him; they also disqualified him from holding further office in the state.[12]

It was wrong when Blagovich did it for a fucking senate seat

Its ten times as wrong when a president does it with our money to get a cheap shot political attack against a potential 2020 rival
 

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See? They can't help but just lie to my face like they're stupid.

Standard for a president: You get this in exchange for that thing that helps the nation as a whole

Non standard and in fact illegal for any politician: You get this in exchange for that thing that benefits me exclusively either financially, electorally or otherwise

Shut the fuck up you retard

Does investigating massive corruption that weakens and ally by allowing it be looted by powerful policos NOT benefit the nation as a whole?

Do you even know the story behind Burisama...How it was actively under investigation by the prosecutor Biden had fired? How the head of it was also the minister of natural resources and used that position to systemically shut down his competitors, while also funneling U.S. aid money into organizations that had the sons of just about every member of this "impeachment" group on their advisory boards for huge checks just like Hunter Biden?

For someone who cares so much about a strong Ukraine, you seem to love seeing them systemically devoured by corrupt U.S. politicians, and withdrawn into coup after coup over being unable to prevent this continued rape.


For fuck sake you are SO god damn low information its fucking sad.
 

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Just a reminder...Biden BRAGGED about getting the prosecutor investigating the company his son was getting bribes from, and...that's for the good of the country.



But if Trump investigates this, its for his own personal gain.

The fucking double think is ASTOUNDING.
 
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Every detail that is has been corroborated by a dozen or more credible witnesses, every testimony entered into oath under penalty of perjury, and every expert asked on the subject says the Ukraine Biden stuff is nonsense and that Trump did what he did and Ive read and watched the vast majority of it.

I believe me over you. I know I"m right on the facts. I know you're wrong.

Just as wrong as if you were here telling me that the evidence for evolution was really evidence for intelligent design and these flagellums prove it here and blah blah blah

I literally view you as uncredible on this topic and you're not going to fix that by butthurting about it here
 

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All they're left with is "im rubber you're glue" arguments again

I'm fucking titanium motherfucker.
 

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Hodj. Can you just answer two questions?

Do you believe it was okay for the Obama WH to threaten to withhold aid to end an investigation into a company Biden was profiting from?

If you don't, can you explain why investigating such corruption is "personal gain"?
 
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hodj

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And projection and gaslighting 1. aren't working and 2. are signs you've lost the debate

You are cult members. I reject all forms of cults, all forms of leadership and I examine evidence rationally. I hold rationality and logical assessment of evidence to be one of the highest, if not highest, of virtues. I've spent my life on this, I'm proud I did. This is one of those moments where it is tested and it will pass this one.
 

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"Maybe if I bring up Obama"

Didn't vote for him. Thought the people backing him were a pretty crazy retarded cult too. Still have memes about it
 

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I called the Obama kids a cult too. I voted against him twice.

Any president who uses taxpayer dollars to extort a foreign ally into giving him personal political favors meant only to help him against a potential rival in the next election should be impeached. Period.

Any president who lies under oath in any context should be impeached.

I think the standards for impeaching a president should be fairly low, frankly. You're supposed to be a shining fucking example of us up there and you're fucking up just a little you should probably be shitcanned.
 

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Every detail that is has been corroborated by a dozen or more credible witnesses, every testimony entered into oath under penalty of perjury, and every expert asked on the subject says the Ukraine Biden stuff is nonsense and that Trump did what he did and Ive read and watched the vast majority of it.

I believe me over you. I know I"m right on the facts. I know you're wrong.

Just as wrong as if you were here telling me that the evidence for evolution was really evidence for intelligent design and these flagellums prove it here and blah blah blah

I literally view you as uncredible on this topic and you're not going to fix that by butthurting about it here


The media said this about Trayvon Martin and "Hands up don't shoot". All you've linked is media interpretation and a single excerpt from Fiona Hill which doesn't claim illegality, it merely lamented the politicization of an ally. But as I showed you, Hill advocated just a couple years before to completely withdraw from Ukraine so as not to escalate a fight with Russia. So its pretty clear her problem was that she was cut out of the loop by a back channel, not the actual effect of it. (And no, back channels aren't illegal, FDR used them in WW2, Kennedy used them in the cold war, Carter used them during Iran, Clinton used them when he sold the country to China ect. The testimony was essentially the state department complaining about not being listened to, as if the bureaucrats and not the elected motherfucking POTUS sets policy. That's not how the country works though, Hodji.)

You don't address these things because your cognitive dissonance is making you sweat. I get it, I do. I don't blame you. Its hard dealing with ignorance.
 
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hodj

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The media misrepresented Trayvon's shooting and when I examined the evidence I posted what I found here and it was factual and convincing and credible

And then we all watched the trial and the witnesses for the defense were factual, and convincing and credible

And so I concluded Trayvon was guilty and Zimmerman, despite perhaps initiating the encounter, had begun to extricate himself from it, when Trayvon returned and escalated the encounter, thus the shooting was legal.

The same process has been followed here. I concluded what I have concluded from that process.

Would you like to shoot your wad down another hole going nowhere?
 

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I mean really like Trayvon is a great great example of how I went against convention based on my own reasonable assessment of the evidence and reached a proper conclusion as a result.

Its a testimony to how I am able to rationally examine evidence. Thanks for bringing it up
 

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I called the Obama kids a cult too. I voted against him twice.

Any president who uses taxpayer dollars to extort a foreign ally into giving him personal political favors meant only to help him against a potential rival in the next election should be impeached. Period.

Any president who lies under oath in any context should be impeached.

I think the standards for impeaching a president should be fairly low, frankly. You're supposed to be a shining fucking example of us up there and you're fucking up just a little you should probably be shitcanned.

So you believe investigations into corruption committed by a political opponent can only be seen as personal gain?

Is that your stance?
 

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You also misrepresented what Fiona Hill's position on Ukraine several years ago was pretty badly but it doesn't really matter because you're just throwing flak desperately trying to drag us down a rabbit hole of stupid and I'm not doing it

Go watch her testimony again and stop being a retard