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So i think I'm gonna take the advice of forum members and give pressure treated wood another shot for the deck.

Does pressure treated wood need to be stained or sealed initially? Doesn't the pressure treating handle that?

What does maintenance look like? Sanding and resealing it once a year? How about fucking mold/mildew that's slippery as fuck. Current deck has that shit and I hate it.

You can't do anything with it when it's brand new and still "wet".
 
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So i think I'm gonna take the advice of forum members and give pressure treated wood another shot for the deck.

Does pressure treated wood need to be stained or sealed initially? Doesn't the pressure treating handle that?

What does maintenance look like? Sanding and resealing it once a year? How about fucking mold/mildew that's slippery as fuck. Current deck has that shit and I hate it.
Pressure treating won’t accept any stain or finish until it’s seasoned for roughly a year. You’ll know when it’ll accept stain when it looks dry and weathered. It loses pretty much all of its green tint as well.
 
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So I need to mount a ton of tools in my concrete block barn. Looking for mounting systems. Rubbermaid rails have mixed reviews on internet


I'm sure some of you bros have some sick mounting in your garage. Any suggestions on brands? Will be mounting right into concrete block.
i talked about it previously, the rubbermaid is fine, but the price premium you pay for the fast trak rails and the associated "hooks" is not worth it imo. mine came with the house, but if i started fresh, i'd do a more off brand rail system, for the price of one rubbermaid hook, you can get like 3 or 4 generics of a different brand.

the rail system is good tho, i like ease of sliding and repositioning tools, like i.e. my more used tools like hoes and shovels are moved closer, while the dethatcher/rake and snowblower are pushed away.
 
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Today, day before the house is supposed to go on the market, I head over to Mom's house to hose off the deck/patio. Turn on exterior faucet, pipe in the basement bursts.

I swear to god this house is going to kill me before I get it sold.
 
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Today, day before the house is supposed to go on the market, I head over to Mom's house to hose off the deck/patio. Turn on exterior faucet, pipe in the basement bursts.

I swear to god this house is going to kill me before I get it sold.
I feel your pain, brother. Literally the morning I was vacating my house (had closed 10 days prior and paid the new owners 10 days rent), I bumped the expansion tank in the crawl space hard enough to shear the pvc on both sides of the tank and had to do a trial by fire quick learning experience on how to plumb. I managed to get it done, but I'm pretty sure the stress shaved a few months off the end of my life. Stay strong!
 
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6 months ago I moved my water heater from one end of the basement to the other because I was remodeling down there and wound up re-plumbing the whole house pretty much (supply side only). When I was unhooking the (15 year old) water heater my girlfriend was like "Don't you think you should just get a new one since it's old and you have it unhooked anyway?" I thought about it but then I was like "It looks fine and there's plenty of hot water" so I just hooked it up. Cut to last week I am heading out for the day and I just happened to go to the basement to get something and water is coming out of the top of the water heater. There's a puddle going the whole length of the basement and a couple hundred dollars worth of shit was ruined but it could have been way worse if I hadn't decided to go down there when I did. Of course the girlfriend rightfully mentioned "Didn't I ask you about getting a new one?" to which I had no defense. Anyway, I lucked out on the water damage and now I have a new water heater.

Now I'm thinking about building some sort of dam around the water heater and the water treatment system that could contain a leak for a while. I know you can buy a pan with a drain line but that's not really an option because there are no drains on that end of the house. Short of putting in a sump, any thoughts on something that could contain a minor leak? I was thinking some 2x6s, some vinyl trim, and a lot of caulk but maybe there's a better option. Don't really care what it looks like because it's in a mechanical closet, but it would be nice to be able to contain leaks if they aren't totally catastrophic.
 
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6 months ago I moved my water heater from one end of the basement to the other because I was remodeling down there and wound up re-plumbing the whole house pretty much (supply side only). When I was unhooking the (15 year old) water heater my girlfriend was like "Don't you think you should just get a new one since it's old and you have it unhooked anyway?" I thought about it but then I was like "It looks fine and there's plenty of hot water" so I just hooked it up. Cut to last week I am heading out for the day and I just happened to go to the basement to get something and water is coming out of the top of the water heater. There's a puddle going the whole length of the basement and a couple hundred dollars worth of shit was ruined but it could have been way worse if I hadn't decided to go down there when I did. Of course the girlfriend rightfully mentioned "Didn't I ask you about getting a new one?" to which I had no defense. Anyway, I lucked out on the water damage and now I have a new water heater.

Now I'm thinking about building some sort of dam around the water heater and the water treatment system that could contain a leak for a while. I know you can buy a pan with a drain line but that's not really an option because there are no drains on that end of the house. Short of putting in a sump, any thoughts on something that could contain a minor leak? I was thinking some 2x6s, some vinyl trim, and a lot of caulk but maybe there's a better option. Don't really care what it looks like because it's in a mechanical closet, but it would be nice to be able to contain leaks if they aren't totally catastrophic.
2x6, vinyl trim, and caulk sounds pretty practical. A more expensive option would be to get a product that turns off your water if it detects standing water.
 
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Lanx

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I feel your pain, brother. Literally the morning I was vacating my house (had closed 10 days prior and paid the new owners 10 days rent), I bumped the expansion tank in the crawl space hard enough to shear the pvc on both sides of the tank and had to do a trial by fire quick learning experience on how to plumb. I managed to get it done, but I'm pretty sure the stress shaved a few months off the end of my life. Stay strong!
was youur expansion tank mounted vertical or horizontal?

i have one for my water heater, the inspector said that it's horizontally mounted and i should put some straps on it to relieve stress
 

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6 months ago I moved my water heater from one end of the basement to the other because I was remodeling down there and wound up re-plumbing the whole house pretty much (supply side only). When I was unhooking the (15 year old) water heater my girlfriend was like "Don't you think you should just get a new one since it's old and you have it unhooked anyway?" I thought about it but then I was like "It looks fine and there's plenty of hot water" so I just hooked it up. Cut to last week I am heading out for the day and I just happened to go to the basement to get something and water is coming out of the top of the water heater. There's a puddle going the whole length of the basement and a couple hundred dollars worth of shit was ruined but it could have been way worse if I hadn't decided to go down there when I did. Of course the girlfriend rightfully mentioned "Didn't I ask you about getting a new one?" to which I had no defense. Anyway, I lucked out on the water damage and now I have a new water heater.

Now I'm thinking about building some sort of dam around the water heater and the water treatment system that could contain a leak for a while. I know you can buy a pan with a drain line but that's not really an option because there are no drains on that end of the house. Short of putting in a sump, any thoughts on something that could contain a minor leak? I was thinking some 2x6s, some vinyl trim, and a lot of caulk but maybe there's a better option. Don't really care what it looks like because it's in a mechanical closet, but it would be nice to be able to contain leaks if they aren't totally catastrophic.

Had a friend with this exact issue, but he did something in advance. He did put 2x6s around, caulked the shit out of it, and then drilled several small holes through the bottom of his cement slab. He came down to find a small leak, but it hadn't even come up a quarter inch. It drained through the small holes in the slab at roughly the same rate it leaked out of the water heater.

I did something somewhat similar in my garage. The garage floor has settled in such a way that water wants to drain to the back (toward the house) side of the garage, rather than toward the exterior door. There were always puddles when snow fell off the vehicles in the winter. Since I've drilled the holes, no puddles, and no issue. It's not draining at such a rate as to erode things, but it has a chance to escape into the soil.
 
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Dandai

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was youur expansion tank mounted vertical or horizontal?

i have one for my water heater, the inspector said that it's horizontally mounted and i should put some straps on it to relieve stress
It was hanging from the joists and should’ve been strapped. I strapped the replacement.
 

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Had a friend with this exact issue, but he did something in advance. He did put 2x6s around, caulked the shit out of it, and then drilled several small holes through the bottom of his cement slab. He came down to find a small leak, but it hadn't even come up a quarter inch. It drained through the small holes in the slab at roughly the same rate it leaked out of the water heater.

I did something somewhat similar in my garage. The garage floor has settled in such a way that water wants to drain to the back (toward the house) side of the garage, rather than toward the exterior door. There were always puddles when snow fell off the vehicles in the winter. Since I've drilled the holes, no puddles, and no issue. It's not draining at such a rate as to erode things, but it has a chance to escape into the soil.


That's an interesting idea. How big are the holes? Quarter inch? Eighth? I guess my worry would be water coming in at certain times of the year.
 

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God damn price of pressure treated lumber is through the roof.
 
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That's an interesting idea. How big are the holes? Quarter inch? Eighth? I guess my worry would be water coming in at certain times of the year.

Small, like 1/8. I asked if he ever had water come up, he didn't. I don't in my garage, either. But I've never had issues wit
 
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God damn price of pressure treated lumber is through the roof.

It's just not available here. My friend's deck is about 75% done (the support parts, not the decking), and it looks like we got enough for everything but stairs. But we're going to wait until next year for stairs because there is literally no green lumber that we can find within 100 miles of us. This is batshit crazy. Hope I don't need any lumber any time soon.
 
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It's just not available here. My friend's deck is about 75% done (the support parts, not the decking), and it looks like we got enough for everything but stairs. But we're going to wait until next year for stairs because there is literally no green lumber that we can find within 100 miles of us. This is batshit crazy. Hope I don't need any lumber any time soon.
My deck quote went from 5k to fucking 11k..........
 

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Need a chainsaw with at least a 25" bar. Is stihl no longer the go-to for chainsaws? Seeing a lot of other brand recs.
 
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It's just not available here. My friend's deck is about 75% done (the support parts, not the decking), and it looks like we got enough for everything but stairs. But we're going to wait until next year for stairs because there is literally no green lumber that we can find within 100 miles of us. This is batshit crazy. Hope I don't need any lumber any time soon.
Not sure if I posted this but I went to Menards a couple months ago to build/buy lumber for a sandbox I made for my kids... the lumber yard had about a dozen pick up trucks in it, all guys just cleaning the place out for deck building. Talked to a couple of them and they said they had to go to 4 different stores to get all the lumber they needed.
 

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Not sure if I posted this but I went to Menards a couple months ago to build/buy lumber for a sandbox I made for my kids... the lumber yard had about a dozen pick up trucks in it, all guys just cleaning the place out for deck building. Talked to a couple of them and they said they had to go to 4 different stores to get all the lumber they needed.

One of those guys could have been me.
 
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