I do not believe in equality

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Borzak

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Some people are born apple pickers.
Some people are born grass mowers.

I fail to see the problem.
 
mkopec

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The problems with black and latino and all other races and creeds really is from the collapse of the family unit. This shit has been steadily on the decline for generations. Single parent families are where the problems arise IMO. Its like up to like 70%+ for blacks. This is the single biggest thing that leads people, especially poor to crime, drugs and alcohol and repeat the cycle all over again generation to generation, only a few really make it out. Maybe the more well off people can skate by in life and still give the kid in a single parent family a good life and education but still this is teetering on disaster when the parent works all day, kid goes to daycare, or school and fucks off until the parent gets home.
 
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i don't believe in your right to not believe in equality. I'm fearful it will make me equal to others, but I'm a white male, so I need to feel superior at all times, or something is wrong.

Ya feel me?
 
Rezz

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More so than almost all other ethnic groups, minus certain asian types (Hmong, for example, are huuuuge on family). They're also the most religious ethnic group outside of worshipers of Islam. (wouldn't argue that Islam is a positive overall influence, though)
 
Borzak

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Swiss reject guaranteed basic income today.

Odd that some in the US are moving toward that direction when at some parts of Europe are now saying "Let's hold on and take a breath a second while we're adding a ton more who are going to be dependents now".

Why the Swiss voted to a guaranteed basic income
 
Mist

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Borzak_sl said:
Some people are born apple pickers.
Some people are born grass mowers.

I fail to see the problem.
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And people said black people were just born to be slaves.

It's never been particularly good logic.
 
Chukzombi

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Mist_sl said:
And people said black people were just born to be slaves.

It's never been particularly good logic.
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yep, some blacks were slaves while the other stronger blacks traded them to white people for items and goods. you dont think the euros ran around with a big net capturing all those black people to bring back here, do you?
 
sadris

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Mean time to death for whites in the African jungles was 11 months due to diseases. They outsourced it
 
Quaid

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Astr0Chuk_sl said:
yep, some blacks were slaves while the other stronger blacks traded them to white people for items and goods. you dont think the euros ran around with a big net capturing all those black people to bring back here, do you?
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Hmmm interesting rebuttal.

So, if the USA were still a slave owning nation in 2016, and world wealth & power distribution was still the same, surely the US could conquer and enslave any nation it so chose. Let's say that nation was Switzerland. In your view, does that mean the Swiss were 'born to be slaves' because of some 'survival of the fittest' principle?
 
Chukzombi

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Quaid_sl said:
Hmmm interesting rebuttal.

So, if the USA were still a slave owning nation in 2016, and world wealth & power distribution was still the same, surely the US could conquer and enslave any nation it so chose. Let's say that nation was Switzerland. In your view, does that mean the Swiss were 'born to be slaves' because of some 'survival of the fittest' principle?
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i dont think you or anyone were born to be slaves so much as when a superior force conquers you then you are at their mercy. disagree?
 
Quaid

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Astr0Chuk_sl said:
i dont think you or anyone were born to be slaves so much as when a superior force conquers you then you are at their mercy. disagree?
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Well, you are certainly 'at their mercy', yes.... But that in no way means that a whole population should become material property just because they lost a fight.
 
mkopec

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Quaid_sl said:
Well, you are certainly 'at their mercy', yes.... But that in no way means that a whole population should become material property just because they lost a fight.
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No but it happened all throughout history ever since tribe A picked up sharp sticks and invaded tribe B, killed most men, enslaved the rest and raped and kept their women. Was it wrong? Maybe, but its what we did until modern times. It still happens in certain places in the world.
 
Rezz

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Not to completely cover for Mist, but I'm pretty sure she was referring to the attitude of the Founding Fathers at the time the nation was raised vs. the attitudes of various tribal entities.
 
Mist

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mkopec_sl said:
No but it happened all throughout history ever since tribe A picked up sharp sticks and invaded tribe B, killed most men, enslaved the rest and raped and kept their women. Was it wrong? Maybe, but its what we did until modern times. It still happens in certain places in the world.
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It happens basically everywhere there isn't government that establishes some baseline level of equality, justice and security.

Seriously guys, let's at least have Enlightenment era discussions. This shit was figured out 400 years ago.
 
Titan_Atlas

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Mist_sl said:
It happens basically everywhere there isn't government that establishes some baseline level of equality, justice and security.

Seriously guys, let's at least have Enlightenment era discussions. This shit was figured out 400 years ago.
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What I find interesting is I posit that I don't believe in equality and it becomes a conversation about slavery. What's important is the word you use Mist, baseline. We no longer are attempting to have a simple baseline of humanity ,justice and security. There is an active movement attempting to find fault in every single assumption of inequality.
 
Cad

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Quaid_sl said:
But that in no way means that a whole population should become material property just because they lost a fight.
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