This thread has, by and large, been concerned with religion as it intersects with the law not with how little it intersects with reason and fact. Those discussions really do belong apart. Given the overall tenor of the Atheism thread, I personally see how some who adhere to some form of faith are a little more comfortable having the type of back and forth that has unfolded the last few pages. They want an reasoned debate without all the demeaning side chatter. That said, that really should be in it's own thread, if such is even possible at this point.