Interstellar (2014)
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Chris
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"The mission" is trivial at that point though. They have a HANGER FULL OF SPACESHIPS orbiting Saturn, it shouldn't be that hard to fly a bunch through the wormhole to pick up all of the people who went through including everyone on the planet of Anne Hathaways. Oh and those space stations look pretty nice, keep building them and gradually get more and more people off Earth until it recovers from "pollution".
You know what I want for the future of humanity? NOT ORBITING A FUCKING BLACK HOLE. This was the biggest WTF for me, if the planets are orbiting it then where is the warmth and light coming from when the neutron star orbits away? If the planets are orbiting the neutron star then why did they go so close to the black hole? It just doesn't sound that friendly.
You know what I want for the future of humanity? NOT ORBITING A FUCKING BLACK HOLE. This was the biggest WTF for me, if the planets are orbiting it then where is the warmth and light coming from when the neutron star orbits away? If the planets are orbiting the neutron star then why did they go so close to the black hole? It just doesn't sound that friendly.
Ambiturner
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For all everyone knows, they sent a few ships through that wormhole 80-100 years ago that never came back. I doubt sending any more through seems like a good idea to them. Also, the warmth and light are coming from the accretion disk of the black hole. The black hole is the only thing making the planets viable in the first place.
The whole leaving your daughter to die after seeing her for 2 minutes is pretty ridiculous, though. While its been 80 years for the Murphy, its only been a couple weeks for Cooper.
rhinohelix
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The reason they didn't send anyone to get the Anne Casthaways is that the time dilation for her trajectory around the black hole to reach the Wolf's planet put her arrival at about the time that Cooper dropped out of the wormhole.
No one ever planned on staying on any of Gargantua's worlds forever; it was only intended as a life raft for as many of Earth's people as possible until they could find a permanent new home.
The mistake that Brandt/NASA/Cooper made was thinking that the wormhole was put there to provide a place to go, as opposed to being placed very specifically there by future humans to allow for current humans to get to Gargantua in order to find the readings/measurements needed to "solve" gravity. Gargantua was the target, due to its very rare characteristics (old, huge size, dense mass, very rapid spin to allow for crossing the event horizon without being torn apart by either the rising or falling singularities "inside" the black hole, get the information they needed, reach the tesseract, and transmit the info back to the past.
Thank you, thank you, thank you for someone getting that 5th dimensional beings, for whom "time is like terrain", don't experience paradoxes.
Cooper left in the end to honor Murph's wishes, plus he at least symbolically completed what he wanted to do as best could be done. The young daughter he had left was gone, though, and the ending also allowed him to close the "pioneer" loop. Would it be what I, or any other living human would do? Maybe, maybe not but in that moment he was ultimately fulfilling his desired destiny an explorer.
iannis
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Oh, I'da left too, all things considered. It's that the scenes were rushed.
He like popped his head in, told his dying daughter, "I came back, Murph!" and she said, "I knew you would. Now go back away. I don't want you to see me croak, pop."
I mean that's 45 minutes worth of a movie right there, tbh. That's a story. That's an entire movie if you want it to be, a sci-fi spin on the absent parent and the exceptional child. I'm pretty sure that Clarke wrote a book about exactly that. Beyond the Fall of Night? It was the one with the starship officer visiting the tropical planet with the dolpins, and the degredation of their culture as seen in timeskips.... he has a romance on his first visit with a local headwoman and his descendants are all involved in the politics of integration. And they did that in... 3 or 5 minutes. It was kind of a huge thing to drop into an epilogue. Not that they could have done it otherwise. It was just not entirely graceful.
He like popped his head in, told his dying daughter, "I came back, Murph!" and she said, "I knew you would. Now go back away. I don't want you to see me croak, pop."
I mean that's 45 minutes worth of a movie right there, tbh. That's a story. That's an entire movie if you want it to be, a sci-fi spin on the absent parent and the exceptional child. I'm pretty sure that Clarke wrote a book about exactly that. Beyond the Fall of Night? It was the one with the starship officer visiting the tropical planet with the dolpins, and the degredation of their culture as seen in timeskips.... he has a romance on his first visit with a local headwoman and his descendants are all involved in the politics of integration. And they did that in... 3 or 5 minutes. It was kind of a huge thing to drop into an epilogue. Not that they could have done it otherwise. It was just not entirely graceful.
Void
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It took him about 3 minutes of screen time to leave her when she was a little girl, I guess we shouldn't be surprised it only took another 3 minutes to leave her as she lay dying.
In other words, as I believe I mentioned in my initial review months ago, they totally dropped the ball on portraying both of those scenes in any way that connected with the audience.
In other words, as I believe I mentioned in my initial review months ago, they totally dropped the ball on portraying both of those scenes in any way that connected with the audience.
Brad2770
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He had no idea there was a plan B. From what it seemed to me, he went in with a carefully crafted plan A that would be a success. He didn't find out later that there was a plan B and that plan A would probably not work. He was the pilot. He figured he would be back to see his girl, though he accepted there might be a chance she would be 40 when he got back.
Tearofsoul
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What...? Alfred told him about "Plan B" before they left. He didn't know "Plan A" had been written off until Murph told him about Alfred's deathbed confession and mistakenly assumed he knew when he left.
Brad2770
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Going by memory here, but I remember "Alfred" saying he would have the equation for Gravity conpleted by the time he returns. Though he already had it completed and was withholding the information. I don't remember there being a discussion of Plan B, but I do remember Cooper being pretty upset when Catwoman and old man Blackie told him about it. If he knew about it, he was mislead. In either case, from my perspective, Cooper originally thought he would return home to his daughter, with Plan B being worse case scenario and not the actual mission.
Kuriin
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Cooper never knew about plan A never being able to work until Mann told him. None of them knew. Caine told them all that gravity equation indeed be completed - even though it was already known it (couldn't?). When the little girl found out, she got upset because she thought Cooper knew all along when he never did.
spronk
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I was pretty annoyed too at the whole "data from the black hole will help Alfred solve Gravity", since that really didn't make ANY sense to me at all, but I guess Kip says its a thing
interstellar - Why will data from a black hole solve the gravity problem? - Science Fiction & Fantasy Stack Exchangeand the theory is basically
Quantum gravity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
^ most of the stuff in that article/wiki is too much for my monkey brain
interstellar - Why will data from a black hole solve the gravity problem? - Science Fiction & Fantasy Stack Exchangeand the theory is basically
Quantum gravity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
^ most of the stuff in that article/wiki is too much for my monkey brain
Gavinmad
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Well the existence of wormholes is strictly theoretical so who knows for sure, but if the wormhole was generating enough gravity to mess up the orbit of everything in the system it would have torn Saturn apart.
BrotherWu
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I was so psyched about Interstellar and sat down with the family to watch it over the weekend and an hour and forty into it I started walking around looking for a black hole to jump through in the hope that the shitty movie would be over by the time I popped out. Could not finish it. I can think of no movie by which I've been more disappointed- and I could not care less about whether all of the science is plausible.
i wonder how Murphy made a living since she was too retarded to figure out an equation batmans butler solved 40 years ago while working with him.