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Big Phoenix

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Surely GOOG hasnt lost 12% of its value in 2 days because of a bad question from its brand new AI platform thats a kneejerk reaction to viral nonsense right?
 
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Surely GOOG hasnt lost 12% of its value in 2 days because of a bad question from its brand new AI platform thats a kneejerk reaction to viral nonsense right?
Of course not, I bet the majority of sellers dont even know that happened.

It's at the price it was at on Jan 25, you know two weeks ago?

Maybe the better question is what justification is there for it still to be up 20% off the October levels even after this decline
 
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Of course not, I bet the majority of sellers dont even know that happened.

It's at the price it was at on Jan 25, you know two weeks ago?

Maybe the better question is what justification is there for it still to be up 20% off the October levels even after this decline
Lets ask Bard.
 
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Blazin

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Dip down on PYPL earnings was delightful now rallied back because of CEO being fired.
 
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Blazin

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Honest question. Is there any reason to be happy about seeing tickers destroyed unless you have a short position?

I guess I understand if you have a vendetta with the company. But if not just seems petty.

No position in LYFT btw.
Maybe for ideological differences
 
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Honest question. Is there any reason to be happy about seeing tickers destroyed unless you have a short position?

I guess I understand if you have a vendetta with the company. But if not just seems petty.

No position in LYFT btw.

A bit surprised to see this take from our resident ape, but it does underscore Blazin Blazin ’s point about the perils of permabear-dom.

The goal is the generate profits, and Lyft isn’t very good at that. They don’t have pricing power, and they’re about to get buttfucked by inflation.

They missed the street’s profit target by 90ish%, right? A 30% haircut seems pretty generous.

Still team MM though. You da real MVP of this thread since permabear Zog Zog noped out 👍
 
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Sanrith Descartes

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Honest question. Is there any reason to be happy about seeing tickers destroyed unless you have a short position?

I guess I understand if you have a vendetta with the company. But if not just seems petty.

No position in LYFT btw.
Well, since its directed at me most likely, let me answer. Blazin is write for some instances. There are companies I dont like for ideological reasons (hello to you BZFD) and actively root for them to go to $0.00

Then there are companies that have no reason to exist but to fleece investors (WeWork, NKLA) and then their are companies that have such a horrid business model they are only being propped up because investor banks dont want to admit it was a piece of shit IPO they backed and sold.

The market is and always should be about survival of the fittest. The weak and inform need to be culled so investor money can go to the strong and healthy.

As for ideology, I went from pro-PYPL and pro-DIS to someone who wants to see them bankrupt based purely on their pivot to wokeness. I feel so strongly about it I ate a loss to vest my portfolio of PYPL because I did not want to be a part of it.
 
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I understand the ideological part that's what I meant by vendetta. I could've used a better word.

Even a beat in this environment will result in a hit to the stock price - so yes more than 30% would even be fair.

It's just getting old seeing red over and over. It is like the reverse of the bubble. That's kind of my point. Yeah, a stock that's down -85% is now down -90% - who could've predicted this????

Despite reversion to the mean I am a stubborn fuck that isn't willing to wait the ~5 or so years of compound interest at 30% it would take to get my money back. (Which is even a generous % since the SPY will likely not be that high consistently each year.)

I will fight my way back or die trying.
It has been said over and over and over again in this thread. Leave your ego at the door. Dont trade on emotion. Always, always go into a trade with an exit strategy. If you trade is bad, cut bait and walk away with a small loss. Don't let it balloon into a big loss. Use tools like stop losses. You have to have a plan to leave a trade and the will to execute it.
 
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It has been said over and over and over again in this thread. Leave your ego at the door. Dont trade on emotion. Always, always go into a trade with an exit strategy. If you trade is bad, cut bait and walk away with a small loss. Don't let it balloon into a big loss. Use tools like stop losses. You have to have a plan to leave a trade and the will to execute it.
He's a perfect example of why index investing is for the majority of investors. It's self cleansing as the weak companies fall off the index.

None of this trying to pick winners and losers, and getting frustrated that you'd have to make perfect trades for half a decade to overcome one bad year.

You bet on something like the American economy and let the details go.
 
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But if not just seems petty.
if you thought that was petty, wait til the permabulls in this thread have a green day



there are only two kinds of online discussion about investing.
1. endlessly rehashed quotes attributed to Warren Buffett
2. petty comments about people who invested in the other direction than you did
 

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If there is one company in the US who can do this, its WMT.

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Fuck Walmart. I copacked for them before and they have no problem constantly making us decrease our prices to them when times were good. And they got away with it because you couldn't survive losing the volume that Walmart generates. Now that the shoe is on the other foot they want to cry foul and act like they're defending the consumer. Even with all those price hikes I bet most manufacturers were still losing margin, treading water, or even still losing on each sale.
 
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Mist

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Fuck Walmart. I copacked for them before and they have no problem constantly making us decrease our prices to them when times were good. And they got away with it because you couldn't survive losing the volume that Walmart generates. Now that the shoe is on the other foot they want to cry foul and act like they're defending the consumer. Even with all those price hikes I bet most manufacturers were still losing margin, treading water, or even still losing on each sale.
Yeah, the "Walmartification of America" was a huge source of the economic stagnation in the 2000s when you go back and look at the numbers. Domestic suppliers just could not operate at the margins Walmart was forcing them to accept, causing domestic suppliers to go out of business and causing us to import even more from overseas. I remember reading case studies of like a pickle supplier, a toilet paper supplier and I think even Hostess or Drakes or something that got effectively run out of business by Walmart.
 

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Fuck Walmart. I copacked for them before and they have no problem constantly making us decrease our prices to them when times were good. And they got away with it because you couldn't survive losing the volume that Walmart generates. Now that the shoe is on the other foot they want to cry foul and act like they're defending the consumer. Even with all those price hikes I bet most manufacturers were still losing margin, treading water, or even still losing on each sale.
You just kinda proved my point. Their scale allows them to dominate the manufacturers. It always has.