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moonarchia

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So after a yearlong battle with management I've been made the system admin of our HRIS system. Which is Workday. Workday is a huge piece of shit of an application too btw.

For the past year or so the HR people would manually generate some excel file with things like Headcount, Salaries, terminations, blah blah. Then the Finance guys would take this for their budgeting planning shit that goes to executive leadership. We got some new leadership a year ago who heard about this process and immediately said, "wtf are you doing? Automate all of this." I get this project and explain that to build this out and automate this we need to extract it into a DB that can be used by our various user interfacing BI tools.

HR fights this but eventually they have some key people quit and they have some new finance guys with more tech savy and I eventually get made admin because the HRIS people they hired have no idea how to use it. Its been hilarious because HR is so culty about shit. NOBODY CAN HAVE ACCESS TO THIS DATA BUT US!! Cunt, I signed a full transparency NDA on all data we have explicitly so I can develop this kind of shit for you.
Culty, cliquish, lawsuit averse. But yeah, they are always useless shitbags who could be fed into wood chippers en masse and the world would be a better place for it.
 
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Palum

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I do a poor job of networking on LinkedIn. What's the best way to set yourself up properly to be on the radar screen of the right recruiters and how do you manage yours without causing alarm at present employer?
 

moonarchia

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I do a poor job of networking on LinkedIn. What's the best way to set yourself up properly to be on the radar screen of the right recruiters and how do you manage yours without causing alarm at present employer?
Just be sure to have all your info and certs up to date and listed and just turn on the flag that you are open to being contacted. If your current bosses are going to toss you for looking then you are probably better off letting them fire you so you can get unemployment, then you can start actively looking for things. Alternately give up on having folks come to you and start looking for things yourself.
 

Palum

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Just be sure to have all your info and certs up to date and listed and just turn on the flag that you are open to being contacted. If your current bosses are going to toss you for looking then you are probably better off letting them fire you so you can get unemployment, then you can start actively looking for things. Alternately give up on having folks come to you and start looking for things yourself.
Oh I am, but there's endless piles of trash and fake jobs. And that's if you keep it local and only have to parse through 100 sq miles of it...

Do you think it's better to take the opposite approach to a focused resume and just list out everything for the sweet sweet keyword density? Or keep the profile lean and use the skills thing?
 

moonarchia

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Oh I am, but there's endless piles of trash and fake jobs. And that's if you keep it local and only have to parse through 100 sq miles of it...

Do you think it's better to take the opposite approach to a focused resume and just list out everything for the sweet sweet keyword density? Or keep the profile lean and use the skills thing?
If you want something specific then tailor your profile and resume towards that. Otherwise just put it all out and let the HR AIbots find you.
 

alavaz

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I mostly use the LinkedIn skills and have taken a few test to get the green check boxes on them. I don't really put much in the actual resume part aside from job titles and dates. I've targeted all my connections so they're all past/ present coworkers along with some recruitment for actual companies I'd work for. I don't have any open to work stuff turned on and get hit up with legit opportunities 5-10 times a week. I'm very "cloud" focused though so it's a hot field. Can't speak to other areas of tech.
 

Mist

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So after a yearlong battle with management I've been made the system admin of our HRIS system. Which is Workday. Workday is a huge piece of shit of an application too btw.

For the past year or so the HR people would manually generate some excel file with things like Headcount, Salaries, terminations, blah blah. Then the Finance guys would take this for their budgeting planning shit that goes to executive leadership. We got some new leadership a year ago who heard about this process and immediately said, "wtf are you doing? Automate all of this." I get this project and explain that to build this out and automate this we need to extract it into a DB that can be used by our various user interfacing BI tools.

HR fights this but eventually they have some key people quit and they have some new finance guys with more tech savy and I eventually get made admin because the HRIS people they hired have no idea how to use it. Its been hilarious because HR is so culty about shit. NOBODY CAN HAVE ACCESS TO THIS DATA BUT US!! Cunt, I signed a full transparency NDA on all data we have explicitly so I can develop this kind of shit for you.
This sounds like a bunch of fights I would never opt to have.

I built some shitty middleware to take data from Paycom and import it into some Call Center Workforce Management (Calabrio) software, and vice-versa, a few times a day, because a client wanted it, was willing to pay for it, and nobody else wanted to do it.

Now I have to support it forever lol.
 

Palum

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I mostly use the LinkedIn skills and have taken a few test to get the green check boxes on them. I don't really put much in the actual resume part aside from job titles and dates. I've targeted all my connections so they're all past/ present coworkers along with some recruitment for actual companies I'd work for. I don't have any open to work stuff turned on and get hit up with legit opportunities 5-10 times a week. I'm very "cloud" focused though so it's a hot field. Can't speak to other areas of tech.
Yea interesting. I think my connections just suck. I mostly focus on Azure hybrid recently and have MCASAE. We don't really use AWS (well directly some of our vendors do) yet but are going to integrate it as we are scaling to multicloud. I use it at home as well so was thinking of at least getting my SAA just to have an AWS cert as well.

I just can't stand GCP because I get harassed by their salespeople constantly.
 

Palum

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Are any of them hot?
Do you consider middle aged balding men with wispy gray locks hot?

They are dastardly, they try to sell professional services to execs because their cloud services just aren't really as mature yet and we constantly have to shut down this garbage.
 

Phazael

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Do any of your co-workers announce on Teams everytime they go to the bathroom?
I do, but only because the fucking millennial tards that report to me will keep chatting at me when I am on the shitter. I still reply on the shitter, but at least they only bug me if its really important.
 

Phazael

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This sounds like a bunch of fights I would never opt to have.

I built some shitty middleware to take data from Paycom and import it into some Call Center Workforce Management (Calabrio) software, and vice-versa, a few times a day, because a client wanted it, was willing to pay for it, and nobody else wanted to do it.

Now I have to support it forever lol.
I hate HR at our company. Our whole ID management starts with them in Workday, but only they have visibility into it and they make stupid typos entering shit into it ALL the fucking time. And then it takes me hours to unfuck because of all the fucking duck tape and binder twine holding all our independent ID management systems together. And I can never verify their errors because I have zero visibility into their backend even for non-confidential shit like user IDs and target email addresses. I have to guess and they always deny they fucked up. Ron Howard voice "They fucked up" every damn time.
 

Nirgon

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I just completed the effort of a database migration to cloud (Snowflake). The project has taken this company over 5 years and we are now finally decommissioning the old systems. This is for a multibillion dollar healthcare company and it has amazed me how much bubblegum, byzantine ancient systems, workarounds, one-off applications, single user inputs and so on that have been keeping the whole mess kind of working. Just my small piece of it has been insane and I am shocked that it works at all.

I've also recognized that the healthcare industry as it exists couldn't function without this shit. Every single company mine interacts with uses peculiar file formats, extremely conditional file generation, weird data types, it just goes on and on and on. All built in the old school database way with thousands of stored procedures, views, data replication systems, and all of them are interdependent and almost none of it is documented.

Absolutely batshit.

Take for example one of our biggest B2B systems to deal with another multibillion dollar healthcare company. The "system" comprises:
  • 57 different databases
  • At least 100 different individual processes feeding said databases data (I honestly have no idea how many).
  • 9 different completely unrelated applications hosted on various servers. Written in C# and others in Java.
  • 400+ different stored procedures.
  • A shitload of custom data views. No idea the total number. Well into the thousands.
  • A massive in house application that actually generates the files to clients. Some of it goes to SFTP, the other part sends it to the in house print shot to put it on paper.

The adapters plugged into adapters is one thing. The amount of lines of things that do nothing in config files because it's been copied and pasted together.... Yeah it's unreal sometimes when I stare out the window, randomly thinking of how flimsily/crazily it's all held together out there.

And the amount of suffering behind figure out any of those bandaids and crazy work arounds lol, it speaks to me sometimes.

Ya it's making me weirder. Fun.
 

Nirgon

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The average pay for a scrum master is 122k? I never see these people working late.... and seemingly they just "rank" things in order of importance, and rely on the programmers to tell them what is and isnt possible....? Help me out here. Why is this not a 45k-60k job?
 
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Identikit

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The average pay for a scrum master is 122k? I never see these people working late.... and seemingly they just "rank" things in order of importance, and rely on the programmers to tell them what is and isnt possible....? Help me out here. Why is this not a 45k-60k job?
.....have you seen modern hiring practices or how modern HR departments do just about anything these days?
 

Nirgon

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.....have you seen modern hiring practices or how modern HR departments do just about anything these days?

Well you don't have to tell me about clown world, I'm well read and I apply that context to everything.

Is it that simple? Overcompensating based on wanting to promote certain types of people?

Or am I hugely missing something? I have to be.
 

Mist

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The average pay for a scrum master is 122k? I never see these people working late.... and seemingly they just "rank" things in order of importance, and rely on the programmers to tell them what is and isnt possible....? Help me out here. Why is this not a 45k-60k job?
Because putting up with bullshit for any length of time is a skill.

Do you know what kind of employees you get at 45-60k these days? People who don't even show up.

The "everyone else but me should be paid less" people are the fucking worst. Nearly everyone at any corporation is underpaid. If someone else could do that job for cheaper, they would have gotten someone else or automated it already.
 

Lenas

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Scrum masters seem like a pointless position until you have a bad one. We had a guy that dragged our daily meetings 2-3x longer than they needed to be. He actually got fired. I didn't know scrum masters could be bad enough to get fired. We got a useful human in his absence and she keeps shit moving.