JRPGs

You can easily add a few extra hours if you realize you fucked up some of the quests and didn't complete them in the best way, so you go back and redo them. Sienna's objective to steal 3 items is particularly bad for that, since you can easily screw up 1 of the 3 thefts by not really exploring the town and then you get 2 angel wings instead of a good accessory. Reloading that one means redoing the whole first sewer section again. Victor has a similar reward that can be messed up, but that one's just an instant reload if you mess up talking to people at the party.

Worst part about Sienna's three thefts quest is that you don't actually get the money that you're supposed to if you do it the correct way. Stealing the wallet and getting caught gives something like 500a, but dude forgot to add the money when you do it right. There's quite a few bugs actually, stats and passives don't always work right (like Kylian has two ATK up passives but you can't equip them both, and some % boosts give much less than they should, especially crit dmg % which doesn't appear to work at all).

I've seen people talk about game-breaking bugs late in the game which can softlock your progress too. It's a really good game, but definitely plays like something that just entered early access rather than full release.

Hateyou said:

Didn’t you like FF7 remake? That had a lot more retarded story shit than tactics ogre lol

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Yeah the added "story" or rather, filler, in that game made it worse. It didn't start with that though, it had the classic bombing run mission with you controlling the character right away.

Hateyou said:

TO is regarded as one of the best stories in rpgs too. It is loosely based on the Yugoslavian wars, lots of factions warring. Game has a couple genocides occur, multiple branching story paths. Even shows a kid get brutally murdered, entire towns burned with dead villagers everywhere. Shows a woman stab and kill herself. Not sure they would make that if it weren’t cartoony sprites.

Octopath yeah, that story was a bunch of pointless trash.

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Not 100% sure Tactics Ogre was what I tried, but I think it was. If a game front loads too much story without me being in control of my character, especially low quality character introductions, I'm out. Maybe start with the genocide.

Hateyou said:

Picked this up and it’s really good. Made by a single dude which is insane for how good this is. It’s on sale atm on steam but I wouldn’t have cared if it was full price. One person I know loved it so much he tried on game pass for 6 hours then went to steam and bought it just to support the guy.



The way the overdrive system works and characters skills interacting with each other and swapping in and out makes the battles, even trash mobs, varied and interesting.

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Wow why is this so good compared to every JRPG type I have played in the last decade. Dude nails it.

Anyone know if SP from the reward board is retroactively applied to characters that join later?

I agree with people on Steam forums for probably the first time ever -- the crystal system is definitely the worst part of the game's design. I wish he'd just streamlined it like he did so much of the other stuff. Get rid of purity and the inventory cap and it would have been great.

Only other complaint I have about the game besides the bugs I mentioned before is that battles against multiple strong enemies are huge difficulty spikes. The fight for the second class emblem kicked my ass over and over because after a couple rounds they push you into overheat constantly and there's nothing you can do to stay out of it while still damaging them. The closest I got was two of them down but I was basically out of TP and couldn't get the fight under control before they wiped everyone with AEs. Should probably have just turned the difficulty down to get through it but I was being stubborn and probably made the fights leading up to the party split harder than it needed to be. I really regret not having the emblem before completing Kortara Mountain Range, but I also don't want to load a save and have to redo that boss fight.

Rajaah said:

I'm probably wrong, but Chained Echoes kinda looks/sounds like those OG Lunar games. Those tended to have a few major difficulty spikes too. I remember a bunch of RPGs from the mid to late 90's that had one or several battles in them that were much harder than anything else in the game and totally disrupted the difficulty curve. Since then I think RPGs have gotten much better at smoothing their challenge level, so when we're hit with big difficulty spike battles it really stands out.

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It isnt like Lunar because as above, you cant really grind like Lunar required you to do. You have to know the systems in the game well and use the right skills.

This game plays great on the Switch I assume? As someone mentioned before this seems made for it.

I guess I will run through this after my playthroughs of KOTOR 1/2 on switch.

Falstaff said:

This game plays great on the Switch I assume? As someone mentioned before this seems made for it.

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Yeah no issues with it on the Switch. You can save at any time plus it auto saves a ton so great for on the go.

Vorph said:

I agree with people on Steam forums for probably the first time ever -- the crystal system is definitely the worst part of the game's design. I wish he'd just streamlined it like he did so much of the other stuff. Get rid of purity and the inventory cap and it would have been great.

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The crystals really don't make any sense, especially with them changing size when you remove them from sockets - what even is that ?

Hateyou said:

Just makes it so you can’t reuse the same ones indefinitely while only using minimal slots. Guess he’s trying to force you to try other stuff? Idk the point of it really.

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Yeah, I don't understand the logic behind crystals at all. It clashes badly with everything else he's done to make the game not tedious or grindy. I was wrong before; it's not just purity that's stupid, it's also the size thing as well as the 'artificial' (*) tag that gets put on the ones you fuse, preventing them from ever being used as fuse material.