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Eomer

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All the Somalians here own their cab and seem pretty successful... You should give yours an old Crown Vic and a medallion.
As always I was mostly kidding. But a lot of Somalians are involved in the drug trade in most of Canada's major cities, and they tend to get a little murdery. Something like a quarter or a third of the murder victims in Edmonton in the past 5 years have been Somalians, and they can't be much more than a couple percent of the population.
 

Adebisi

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btw when did president of Cuba go from aging guerrilla fighter to my mom planting impatiens?
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hodj

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That Castro's brother Raul, who is officially in charge of Cuba now.

I know this is anecdotal, so grain of salt, but I have actually never met an Asian that wasn't more racist than even the most hardcore hicks of Kentucky.
Kentucky gets a bad rap, there's not nearly as much racism here as people think. People tend to forget we fought for the North in the Civil War, too.

And that Mary Todd Lincoln was literally born in my city like less than 3 miles from where I'm currently sitting.
 

Adebisi

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Maybe I should've said " when did president of Cuba transfer from aging guerrilla fighter to my mom planting impatiens?"

What makes Raul so much worse? Little brother syndrome?
 

Homsar

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When will all of the bullshit about the father and his son come out? Does the father know if all this shit keeps going further all of his and his sons shady past is going to come out? If the stuff is true, I can't believe the media isnt blasting all of the Fights, Drug use, fathers ex gang relations, talking about buying and selling guns with his son. Infuriating that people have any sympathy for these parents and they are getting rich off it. Also fuck the UK creating Peirs Morgan, he makes Alex Jones seem alright
 

Haast

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When will all of the bullshit about the father and his son come out? Does the father know if all this shit keeps going further all of his and his sons shady past is going to come out? If the stuff is true, I can't believe the media isnt blasting all of the Fights, Drug use, fathers ex gang relations, talking about buying and selling guns with his son. Infuriating that people have any sympathy for these parents and they are getting rich off it.
Right now, they are still getting ratings off the "sympathy for TM" stories. If public opinion polls start revealing a tide shift or the story goes cold and the news cycle is slow, I bet one of them will "break" information about the contrary evidence (TM was troubled, a shitload bigger than portayed, fought a bunch, used drugs regularly, got caught stealing, was a general fuck-up, etc).

I'm still incensed as fuck that Obama is fanning the flames. That is a shameful display from a president.
 

iannis

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That Castro's brother Raul, who is officially in charge of Cuba now.



Kentucky gets a bad rap, there's not nearly as much racism here as people think. People tend to forget we fought for the North in the Civil War, too.

And that Mary Todd Lincoln was literally born in my city like less than 3 miles from where I'm currently sitting.
Wasn't it Kentucky that seceeded like a month before the war was over? I seem to remember one of the more northern confederate states did.
 

Jais

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Kentucky was neutral at the start of the ACW then it went Union, it had a shadow Confederate government that didn't do much and men from KY served on both sides.

Wasn't it Kentucky that seceeded like a month before the war was over? I seem to remember one of the more northern confederate states did.
Not sure of any state that matches that description, might be thinking West Virginia? Seceeded from Virginia and went Union in 63.
 

Homsar

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Right now, they are still getting ratings off the "sympathy for TM" stories. If public opinion polls start revealing a tide shift or the story goes cold and the news cycle is slow, I bet one of them will "break" information about the contrary evidence (TM was troubled, a shitload bigger than portayed, fought a bunch, used drugs regularly, got caught stealing, was a general fuck-up, etc).

I'm still incensed as fuck that Obama is fanning the flames. That is a shameful display from a president.
How reliable are the facts about Fruity (The Father)? If the stuff is true I would stay the hell away from the media but I guess if he's making tons of money off this BS and not going to get arrested then do it? I guess most people would go for the money but there is better ways to handle it and not just milk the shit out of your sons death and create a huge racial barrier
 

hodj

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Men from lots of border states served on both sides, including people from Confederate states who chose to fight for the North. That's really not strange at all, it was completely ordinary for the time.

Yet Kentucky, the state, remained in the Union and never left. When the Confederates tried to convince them to leave, Kentucky had a pro Union legislature, elected by the people of Kentucky, that refused and then joined the Union instead.

Kentucky was a border state and had border state politics, yet unlike so many other border states, it remained in the Union and willingly ended slavery of its own accord. That needs some damn credit, people. When push came to shove, we made the right choices.

The shadow government was a joke and we had one of the biggest camps for freed slaves in the country during the war (Camp Nelsonhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_Ne..._Heritage_Park) also less than an hour's drive from my house as well. Something like 75% of our slaves were freed during the war and then the rest free legally after the war ended.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History...ugitive_slaves
 

Jais

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Men from lots of border states served on both sides, including people from Confederate states who chose to fight for the North. That's really not strange at all, it was completely ordinary for the time.

Yet Kentucky, the state, remained in the Union and never left. When the Confederates tried to convince them to leave, Kentucky had a pro Union governor, elected by the people of Kentucky, that refused and then joined the Union instead.

Kentucky was a border state and had border state politics, yet unlike so many other border states, it remained in the Union and willingly ended slavery of its own accord. That needs some damn credit, people. When push came to shove, we made the right choices.
Hmm I thought Kentucky succeeded but then rejoined after her neutrality was violated by the CSA.
 

hodj

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Nah, Lincoln actually even said that to lose Kentucky would mean to lose the entire war

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kentuck...ican_Civil_War

Kentucky was a border state of key importance in the American Civil War. President Abraham Lincoln recognized the importance of the Commonwealth when he declared "I hope to have God on my side, but I must have Kentucky."[1] In a September 1861 letter to Orville Browning,[2] Lincoln wrote "I think to lose Kentucky is nearly the same as to lose the whole game. ... We would as well consent to separation at once, including the surrender of the capital."[3]

Kentucky, being a border state, was among the chief places where the "Brother against brother" scenario was prevalent. Kentucky was officially neutral at the beginning of the war, but after a failed attempt by Confederate General Leonidas Polk to take the state of Kentucky for the Confederacy, the legislature petitioned the Union for assistance, and thereafter became solidly under Union control.
And the reason we stayed neutral at the start was because we were actually trying to mediate the crisis between the two sides

On April 15, 1861, President Abraham Lincoln sent a telegram to Kentucky governor Beriah Magoffin requesting that the Commonwealth supply part of the initial 75,000 troops to put down the rebellion.[12] Magoffin, a Southern sympathizer, replied "President Lincoln, Washington, D.C. I will send not a man nor a dollar for the wicked purpose of subduing my sister Southern states. B. Magoffin"[13] Instead, most Kentuckians favored John J. Crittenden's position that the Commonwealth should act as a mediator between the two sides.[12] To that end, both houses of the General Assembly passed declarations of neutrality, a position officially declared by Governor Magoffin on May 20, 1861.[12]
At the start of the war we had a pro Confederate Governor and pro Union Legislature, but in 1861 Unionist candidates landslided the competition, and that pro Confederate Governor resigned.

We're literally the Rodney Dangerfield of the 50 states. We can't get no respect.
 

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Did some digging, you're right, Kentucky never left the Union.
I think it is ominous that on sites as wide ranging a the WSJ to Rerolled I find a lot of commentary about civil war and succession. I don't recall anything like it, even when Ken Burns' The Civil War was the hip thing to watch on PBS.

Once an Idea takes root & etc... I would be interested to know from our historically inclined folks as to how long before the Civil War were the Southern States talking secession as just a hypothetical idea.
 

Gavinmad

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I think it is ominous that on sites as wide ranging a the WSJ to Rerolled I find a lot of commentary about civil war and succession. I don't recall anything like it, even when Ken Burns' The Civil War was the hip thing to watch on PBS.

Once an Idea takes root & etc... I would be interested to know from our historically inclined folks as to how long before the Civil War were the Southern States talking succession as just a hypothetical idea.
Around 30 years. Although he was not the sole originator of the idea of SECESSION, former Vice President John C. Calhoun had a lot to do with the thinking that led to the civil war. You'll want to read about Nullification, the Petticoat Affair, and the Nullification Crisis of 1832 to see where, in my opinion, the seeds of the civil war were sown.
 

iannis

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I'm southern. We talk about that War sometimes.

I realize the rest of the nation really doesn't care, for them it was the War Between the States. For us it was the Civil War and it's worth talking about once in a while.

The CSA fucked us worse than Reconstruction did.
 

Jais

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Also southern and big into military history, I don't require much provoking to dive into the ACW.
 
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