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Guest, it's time once again for the massively important and exciting FoH Asshat Tournament!
Go here and give us your nominations!Who's been the biggest Asshat in the last year? Give us your worst ones!
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In the last bit, he actually did attack the evidence somewhat, even though it was nonsensical; he said if GZ was mounted; how did he get the gun? If TM was covering GZ's mouth and hitting him, where was the blood? Etc.. things that did nothing to change the fact that TM was beating him. They picked at what they could pick at, I guess. They called GZ a liar over and over even though his story has been pretty consistent in my view and is consistent with the physical evidence.
But mostly, it was "A BOY IS DEAD! A CHILD WAS STALKED! THIS CHILD WILL NEVER BREATHE AGAIN! THIS CHILD DESERVES" etc etc
But mostly, it was "A BOY IS DEAD! A CHILD WAS STALKED! THIS CHILD WILL NEVER BREATHE AGAIN! THIS CHILD DESERVES" etc etc
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Josh Marshall says,"If you're a wannabe cop loser with a gun who starts stalking a kid in the dark, you're responsible for the outcome. I know that sounds harsh or flippant. But I really do feel like this is what the whole case comes down to."http://talkingpointsmemo.com/
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It's irresponsible because you can't make up laws after the fact. You can't decide to just ignore the laws cause you feel like it.
So what you're saying is that your interpretation of the evidence is more valid than Josh Marshall's or anyone else's?
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Using "wannabe cop" as a reason for Zimmerman be convicted is pretty much a sure sign the person doesn't know what they are talking about. GZ was a member of neighborhood watch, and his having a gun only possibly saved his life. We have no evidence that the gun itself had anything to do with the initial confrontation. The only thing the gun did was allow Zimmerman to defend himself.
I wonder if Josh Marshall also roundly criticizes the Neighborhood watch in his town. Damn wannabe cops, always trying to make sure his house doesn't get broke into!
I wonder if Josh Marshall also roundly criticizes the Neighborhood watch in his town. Damn wannabe cops, always trying to make sure his house doesn't get broke into!
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He and anyone else can say that the law is not written well if they want. That is not irresponsible. In fact I don't think you guys know what irresponsible means. If the judge said the same thing during the trial that would be irresponsible because they have direct influence over the case.
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He's not interpreting the evidence, he's trying to declare what a crime is. He's trying to assign responsibility for actions that have no criminal culpability.
If he said "I think the evidence indicates that GZ assaulted TM, the evidence shows it, and thats my take. TM was just defending himself. GZ shot him unfairly." then that would be a valid, if misguided, opinion. He's just stating:
"I think it should be a crime to follow someone. I'm upset it isn't."
Which isn't an opinion, it's just bullshit.
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Without the bias in that statement, what he's saying is, if you have a gun at night, whatever happens is your fault.
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There is no interpretation of the evidence that warrants using terminology like "Wanna be cop loser" and "starts stalking a kid in the dark"
We have neighbourhood watches, but no one carries a gun roaming the streets looking for trouble. Our neighbourhood watch people call the authorities when they see something suspicious. In fact we call those normal people.
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