Kildrukaun's Prophecy - Progression server

That should be pretty good, I was thinking about levelling up a wizzy to duo with my mage.

Pet's seem to hold agro very well, so the massive nukes shouldn't really be a problem. Coupled with the low HP lots of the mobs have they will be down super fast anyway.

I'm the "knights suck" voice on Hoshkar, the paladin that can't hold aggro on anything at all while warriors are fucking electro-magnets of single target hate. We had a warrior in VP the next night, and it was such a glorious difference. Fucking SNAP aggro on warriors man. This is fubar.

Our monk crew may as well tank over me. I'm just a bad healer under the current state of mechanics. Well, I can tank off casters np unless they dot. Nukes are worth virtually no hate at all. So...yay.

The videos are more entertaining when you've got the voice going.

SK's agro is apparently shit as well because Snare gives no agro whatsoever.

The "unless they dot" is for our side, not when they dot Agraza. Those don't bother me at all. DoTs do ENORMOUS amounts of threat from sham/dru/nec at least. My shaman gets chain summoned just for clicking her epic and using bane of nife. The DPS is like 1/5 of my paladins's, but even so.

Hey Agraza, how did that war/cler you were with do last night in guk? If they are down for it, I wouldn't mind grouping up for lord/AM/frenzy. Think after 3 ppl, the xp modifier kicks in and it's pretty bad ass.

To be fair Agraza you rez'd like a king last night.

There's always that going for you.

Evernothing_sl said:

SK's agro is apparently shit as well because Snare gives no agro whatsoever.

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Yup, the only way I can hold agro off my rogue is if I cast heat blood and let it tick once or twice before the rogue engages. I pretty much rolled the worst combo but hopefully it will come around, otherwise I'll be grinding charasis or crypt till 60 since the only dps I have is my cleric.

Agraza_sl said:

I'm the "knights suck" voice on Hoshkar, the paladin that can't hold aggro on anything at all while warriors are fucking electro-magnets of single target hate. We had a warrior in VP the next night, and it was such a glorious difference. Fucking SNAP aggro on warriors man. This is fubar.

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I think it's simply the way taunt works here. It's such a low fail check that I was consistently using taunt to insta tag off the puller. I am using a SoD and a VP blade (180dd+stun) for groups and can keep aggro off my chain Ice Comet casting wizard all day long without the need for taunt, BUT in raids I am swapping my VP blade out for my Epic 1h with the 100dd + 500 hate proc. Even then it can bounce occasionally. (Verified using Health of Target's Target leadership AA)

Jysin_sl said:

I think it's simply the way taunt works here. It's such a low fail check that I was consistently using taunt to insta tag off the puller. I am using a SoD and a VP blade (180dd+stun) for groups and can keep aggro off my chain Ice Comet casting wizard all day long without the need for taunt, BUT in raids I am swapping my VP blade out for my Epic 1h with the 100dd + 500 hate proc. Even then it can bounce occasionally. (Verified using Health of Target's Target leadership AA)

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As a dps class I can for sure say the difference between you and Agraza or Vasil is night and day. I didn't even have to let you build aggro because it seemed like for the most part you generated threat as quickly as I did. Also no low hp aggro means ae's don't even pose much risk, I'm sure the guilds with like 6 warriors really enjoy that factor when they have 5 of their tanks at below 30% to land CB's.

Yea, the lack of low HP aggro is a major factor overall in both raids and grouping.

SK / Pallies need some hate fixes, no doubt.

Friday/Jysin, you bros going to be on for VP tonight?

Taunt has virtually nothing to do with it. Knights have rarely had to rely on that button to succeed. My hate per second is dogshit. The problem is knight spells don't generate even 1/5 of the hate they should. Historically I could cycle stuns on a new mob across the room to peel them (or get myself summoned) in 1-4 casts. I could stun all day on KPEMU and it wouldn't flinch.

On Live I just grab every add that ever spawns on any encounter and let the other tanks taunt off me for their mobs. Sustainability and efficiency should be the issue with knight tanks. Eventually we go OOM or the healers do. Warriors last longer for both sides of the equation. In this era knights just went splat, but thankfully the devs aren't going for that.

It's not like I even want to be MT. I want to peel and OT. That is the hallmark of the knight. 75% of my toolkit is either useless or heavily reduced while I'm MT. Having aggro supremacy by a significant margin so we can spin hate is key.

Yea I'll do BP tonight again. I'm at a friends house. I'll be on tonight.

Zaide_sl said:

Friday/Jysin, you bros going to be on for VP tonight?

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Working this afternoon. I will be home in a couple hours.

I want I do VP.

Stupid work.

It was brought up over TS last night what faction we should focus on as we are beginning to enter Velious. Firstly, I think faction grinding is nowhere near what live was. I dont think I spent more than 4-5 hours killing trash mobs in Kael to max both CoV and Coldain. Big hits like Vindi, KT, Statue, and AoW will make that even quicker. From a ToV Armor perspective, West Wing (Giant faction) had higher AC vs the East Wing (aka Halls of Testing / Dragon faction). HoT armor drops had slightly less AC but better +stats. As I keep hearing, AC is kinda broken on this server, I see no point in farming West Wing armors. I have spent time on my 3 box War, Shm, Wiz in East Wing (HoT) and I have been able to quite easily kill the trash and named with exception to Dozekar who I have yet to see up.

So basically, I really don't see a need for guild raids in HoT with exception of maybe Dozekar. I think it's safe to bet we can just shoot straight for NToV with the odd West Wing named we might want to smack for loot. HoT can be saved for grouping if people choose to farm the armor.

EVERYONE needs to be hoarding armor quest gems! I have armor pieces waiting with no gems on all 3 of my toons. I have a backpack in the bank saving the extra gems and it would be hugely beneficial if we get proactive as a guild sharing quest gems. Drop zones are Velks, DN, and SG.

That's my 2c.

Yea I'm not even Velious keyed.

And many more aren't VP keyed.

Start farming gems for me and we'll see you there next month lol

We would have had a few Velious keyed last night if Immersion wasnt in VP killing PD before us. It's not as far away as you think! =P

I was simply giving info, as it was brought up over TeamSpeak while finishing up VP last night.

It should also be mentioned, Kael armor drops in The Arena area are pretty common. I got about 80% of the armor needed on all 3 of my toons in one long farm session. ToV, in contrast, is quite rare! In a few hours clearing trash I only saw 2 pieces of armor and by bad luck they were duplicates. If you want armor upgrades immediately, head to Kael first.

FWIW: Arena giants will only boost Dragon faction. You need to farm bearded giants on the first half of the zone to get Coldain faction hits to ally before turn-ins.